Jon calling me 'hypocrite'....

That is a bit funny, at least after reading his arguments on this thread.
( and how this thread started, and all his actions on this subject ).

Well, as I said I will vote -1 on any switch to Maven wherever I have a 
vote. 

I never used ( and I don't plan to use ) Anakia - and I voted -1 and 
I'll keep voting -1 whenever my vote is counted. 

I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if 
'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to 
get people to work togheter -  and DocBook, HTML, XSLT are
the standards.

> The next thing to replace jakarta-site2 will be Maven. Just like with
> Anakia, I honestly don't care if you -1 it. You aren't doing the work and
> therefore your argument against it is simply a bike shed and is thus not
> valid in my opinion.

I hope another jakarta commiter will join me and second my -1. 

And I hope you'll not find a way to twist this rule. 


> Costin, just like with Tomcat 3 vs. Tomcat 4. We all learned that you can't
> force projects to work together. Nor can you vote -1 on it. Given our
> history, I'm really surprised to hear you trying to argue for something like
> that. You hypocrite.

Just like with tomcat 3 and tomcat4, we all learned that you _can_ get
people to work togheter, even if they disagree on many things. Coyote is 
a good example, jasper2 may be another. 

As long as people like you stay away, at least. 


> So, if learning DVSL vs. XSLT is beyond your aptitude, I probably would not
> have hired you anyway.

It's not a matter of learning - but of principles. Respecting and using 
standards, even if simpler solutions may exist - would be a big argument
for me. 


> have it come out being any good). IMHO, it is the free thinkers that have
> the most creative and bug free code. Thinking outside of the box shows that
> you care about the code and systems you are creating.

Respecting and using standards shows you care about the community and 
 the other people who one way or another will use your code. 

If reinventing the wheel is what you call 'free thinkers', I'm sorry about
you.


Costin


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