on 2002/12/4 9:20 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.miceda-data.com/cgi-bin/blosxom/2002/12/04#Java/velocity
> 
> -Andy

Wow. Java Server Faces really sucks ass. Much more than I could have ever
imagined. No wonder I didn't bother looking at it before. What a confusing,
over engineered, under thought out way to do things! I'm really surprised
that Sun thinks that anyone is going to use this crap and actually like it.

I can hear the UI designers now...

"What does this mean?"

<faces:textentry_input id='name'>
 <faces:validator 
      className='javax.faces.validator.LengthValidator'/>
 <faces:attributename=
        'javax.faces.validator.LengthValidator.MINIMUM'
        value='3'/>
</faces:textentry_input>

I think it is really funny that the validation "code" is being put into the
templates. Let me guess, "you don't have to do that if you don't want to."

What happened to taking the APPLICATION LOGIC out of the View? If someone
even starts to say to me that JSF is anywhere close to MVC, I think I will
have to violently expel my lunch in their direction. Ha!

I'm completely amazed and disappointed that Sun is spending so much time,
energy and money towards creating so much crap.

Bah.

-jon

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