But who speaks for JCP? While you offer a nice brochure view of the JCP, the other side is that the JCP is a large company dominated organisation which conducts its business behind closed doors and has a high cost to effective entry.
An individual can join one project without having to pay ridiculous sums [for the individual] and the individual cannot join a project which is to do with their work for their company [due to an effective NDA in the registration]. Projects appear to stagnate in the JCP and others appear to fast track through due to Java?Sun?JCP's marketing needs. Do the JCP have official PR people to show why the JCP is not the dark picture it is often portrayed as? Or is it a loose federation. In which case, should the ASF be picking up those threads as a spokeperson for the JCP and explaining just why the ASF and Doug Lea are able to stop the huge corporates from turning Java into some system designed to make them money and not a better future for Java. To those of us who have not seen the insides of the JCP, it looks like a large, probably political and argumentative body of powerful entities. While it may be a good thing compared to Microsoft's dictatorship, it's almost definitely less efficient, and not the open system it should be. Hen On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote: > JCP is the Java community process. A federation of hundreds of companies that > produces standards (such as EJB) for the Java community. Anyone can be a > member and your vote counts. JCP is what Java has that .NET never will and > that is why .NET will win. > > -- Robert > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:12 AM > Subject: Re: nice > > > > > > Interesting points. > > > > Who runs the JCP? Is Apache just a member, or an actual runner? If so, is > > it Apache's role to comment in anyway on the current disatisfaction with > > the hidden-ness of the JCP? Or is that the JCP themselves [if such exists] > > role? > > > > [Apache's role, along with all the other top-level members of the JCP]. > > > > Hen > > > > On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > > > > > http://rasmussen.homeip.net:8088/fileblog/blog/computers/java/culture#jcp_mys > tery > > > > > > -Andy > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
