Re: Why you *want* to be on the PMC

[Ted Husted]

To do this, each product would simply need to draft a resolution to 
create the PMC and select a chair, and ask that it be placed on the 
board's agenda for the next meeting, just as Log4J and the others did. 
It would be very important that each product do this themselves, to help 
show they are ready for self-management.

Essentially, each product would still be a TLP, but would just be hosted 
at Jakarta.

This option has always been available, it's just that every product 
since Ant has chosen to have their own hostname and website.

It's also important to remember that some of these products, like Log4J, 
are not just about Java anymore. The Apache Logging project will have 
compatible codebases available for half-a-dozen platforms. (Now *that's* 
community building!)

-Ted.

Dirk Verbeeck wrote:
+1

If this is acceptable by the board then it's the ideal solution.
No changes to the email/website structure, jakarta remains the center of 
the apache java development with a shared announcement list, general 
list, news and download pages, ...

The only change is that the board gets a list of members overseeing each 
project (=PMC) and additionally a "Jakarta Community" project building a 
java community at Apache. (assisting the java projects)
The board will not get one big report from jakarta but many small ones 
and can see witch (sub)projects needs more members.

Of course many members will be joining multiple PMCs.
Is this possible?
-- Dirk



Noel J. Bergman wrote:

There is a difference between a hierarchy and a confederation.  There is
absolutely nothing that says that we cannot have:
  Jakarta PMC: responsible for jakarta-site/jakarta-site2
  Tomcat PMC: tomcat and related code
  Struts PMC: struts and related code
  Jakarta Commons PMC: ...
  Tapestry PMC: ...
  ...
All without a single change to the Jakarta domain.

No one should feel that there is any relationship between the 
Foundation's
legal structure, and e-mail/web addresses.  We have had this confirmed
already by both Greg and Sam.  The above *is* an acceptable solution 
to the
Board.  The question is whether or not it is an acceptable one to us.

    --- Noel




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