Hi,
I installed from Java.com the package J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 7
and made the link with the method described in «User Manual|Tech
Details|Starting Windows Jwdp». Made the tests and all WORK FINE, NO
PROBLEM has you have predicted.
I also cleaned J from the machine, no remaining directories whatsoever. Made
the download and installed with no modifications. Made the test and there it
was the USUAL PROBLEM.
Here are two things I did not mentioned :
1) Just after I had reinstalled many of the softwares that I use including
(VS6) the first time I made the first test it work but as soon as I did a
second test it did not work anymore.
2) While reinstalling Visual Studio 6 there was a message about an icon
being installed for the purpose of installing some kinds of files to help
the C++ debugger in the determination of the source of an error. So after
the installation completed, I activated that icon and while it was
installing I remember seeing file such as MFC42something being listed (too
fast). But for many of the files I said no when it asked to replace newer
files with older ones. After it terminated there was a message that some
files could be found and could not be installed. It should be possible to
reactivate the icon to start the process again saying Yes to the message.
Claude Belanger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Iverson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General forum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Crash on % 0 1 2 3
FE is Front End and in addition to the normal Jwdw (j.exe native windows
front end with GUI support) there is a similar front end written in Java.
Start your normal J and select Help|User Manual|Tech Details|Starting
Windows Jwdp. This explains how to create an icon (red J) that will launch
Jwdp (J wd (GUI) portable (Java) front end). It will be useful to know the
results of your tests there. As jconsole worked, my guess is that Jwdp
will work as well.
My memory is vague in this area, but I believe there are different ways to
condition exception handling in floating operations and J depends on the
standard way in a clean state. My guess is that something in your
environment changes this state for J and this leads to the unexpected
exception being signalled. The VC++ dev env etc are likely red herrings in
all this.
I will try to figure out a way for you to reset the J application floating
point state. If you could do this after J was running with the problem and
after the reset the problem went away that would really narrow down the
problem.
Meanwhile, please run the Jwdp experiment.
Also, please confirm that the problem happens with an absolutely clean
install of the obeta in a clean directory (delete any old j601 directory
before the install) with no customization or changes.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Claude Bélanger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General forum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Crash on % 0 1 2 3
Bonjour,
I downloaded and installed the latest service packs I could find VS6sp5
for Visual Studio
and VS6sp6 for VB6, VC++ and Vss6.0d. PROBLEM STILL THERE.
In all the tests I made, whenever I checked MDM was not running.
I made a visual check on both machine of MFC42U.DLL and MSVCRT.DLL,
timestamps and sizes are different on my wife machine and on mine. I
tried
to make the switch but I think it did not work. I rename the modules as
...OLD.dll and copied over them. In doing that I got the message that I
was
trying to copy over existing modules and tried it anyway, but the modules
had the
same size and timestamp afterwards. Made a test anyway ... PROBLEM STILL
THERE. So I copied them in the Jfolder and made a test ...PROBLEM STILL
THERE.
I do not know what a CONSOLE is but I tried activating Jconsole.exe,
seems like a DOS INVITE kind of command line. Tried the test and SURPRISE
NO PROBLEM, works fine with all the tests. The tests I do is «% 0» and «%
0 1» both always work, «% 0 1 2» always fails and «% _0» works but «% _0
_1» fails.
Explain to me how I can make a test in JAVA FE, I suppose that FE is for
Family Edition.
Claude Belanger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oleg Kobchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General forum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Crash on % 0 1 2 3
J Windows FE also uses MS VS 6.0.
When you install Visual Studio, it may substitute
(debug version) DLLs in system32. You may was to
make sure that you also install all the latest
service packs and patches.
Is mdm.exe running? If yes, kill it and try again.
Also it should say what the error is, and in
the dialog "Send to Microsoft" there should be
detailed information.
Reinstalling Visual Studio, it should stop the
debugger at a particular place. That info may be
helpful.
Also does the error appear in Console and Java FE?
Windows FE uses MFC42U.DLL and MSVCRT.DLL
from system32, so you can copy those from the other
machine into J folder and try again. Or compare them
with the versions in system32 and possibly try to
substitute them there.
--- Claude Bélanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi, here is a followup on the problem :
1) I decided to buy a new machine (64 bits CPU) which was planned for
november 2006.
2) I installed the machine a couple of weeks ago and made a test of % 0
1 2
3 and EVERYTHING WORKED FINE, NO CRASH.
3) I continued the instllation of the softwares that I usually use
(Office
2000, VB 6.0, etc) and the cleaning of the old machine which went on
the
a
home network for my wife.
4) Then yesterday, I open J on my new machine and made the test,
SURPRISE,
THE PROBLEM IS BACK with the same crashing procedure (C++ Debugger
activated, and the message "J has met with a problem ... Sent this
message
to Microsoft").
5) What had changed from the first days of installation : for one thing
Visual Studio 6.0 (Visual Basic, C++) had been installed. I thought
that
the
interactive debugger for C++ was been activated on the "ftp 0 divide"
condition instead of letting the condition being passed to the J
application.
6) So I installed the J601n beta version on my wife newly cleaned
machine
and there it was working perfectly, NO PROBLEM WITH % 0 1 2 3. So
floating-point CPU not at fault.
7) I tried to disabled the option "Just-in-time debugging" in C++ 6.0
(Debugger) and in the Visual InterDev (Debugger) with partial success
(The
C++ Debugger was not called anymore but the message "J has met with a
problem ... Sent this message to Microsoft" remained.
8) I did a complete UNINSTALL of MS Visual studio and made sure that
nothing
remain on the machine. SAME PROBLEM as in 7).
9) I made an new install of J601n beta in another directory, Same
PROBLEM
as
in 7).
10) I remove J601n from both locations, and I downloaded J601obeta and
installed it and got the SAME PROBLEM as in 7) but it worked fine on my
wife
machine.
11) What should I try next, any suggestions?
Claude Belanger, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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