If Esc no longer closed the Term (or Edit) window then I'd be more comfortable with having the default ConfirmClose setting set to 0.
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 3:32 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > Esc is not an established way to close a window or terminate an application. > I use esc heavily on other applications but not for the purpose of closing > a window. > > If esc is removed from the list for commands for closing a form, then > users must have pressing the 'x' button or window manager shortcut key such > as ctrl-f4, by doing this, users should fully aware the effect and the > intention is clear. Asking again for confirmation will be an annoyance. > > Пнд, 07 Фев 2011, Don Guinn писал(а): >> The "x" in the Windows environment is a quick way out, going to the option >> of whether or not to prompt on exiting. If a person wants to exit J, why go >> to another prompt to make "are you sure?". The point I was trying to make is >> that the JHS and JGTK versions should be somewhat consistent. >> >> I choose not to be prompted with the "are you sure?" but I don't think >> pressing "esc" should kick in the terminate J sequence. It doesn't is in >> browsers. Why should it in JTGK? >> >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:04 PM, chris burke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > There is a ConfirmClose config for this in gtkide config. Default is >> > off. Should it be on, or is the default not important? >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > To provide more compatibility between the two environments, JGTK should >> > not >> > > exit on pressing ESC. In JGTK CTRL+a selects all the text. Why not have >> > it >> > > be lab advance? More like in JHS which uses ESC-a for lab advance. In >> > > addition CTRL+a could be lab advance in JGTK instead of selecting all. >> > > >> > > It seems to me that it is more important that JGTK and JHS conform closer >> > to >> > > each other than to the conventions of GTK and browsers. If I use JHS and >> > get >> > > used to pressing ESC to do functions I could get in real trouble trying >> > to >> > > use JGTK. >> > > >> > > On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Tikkanz <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > >> I agree managing keybindings across browsers and across OS's is hard - >> > >> however my main suggestions below just involve altering the letters >> > >> used in combination with Esc, not changing the basic key combinations. >> > >> >> > >> My mentioning Ctrl+ use in Gmail was intended just as a heads up that >> > >> this might be worth investigating sometime in the future ... J702? >> > >> ;-). >> > >> >> > >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:34 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > My knowledge with jhs is almost empty, but I imagine jhs has already >> > >> gotten >> > >> > a hard time to keep keybindings work across different browsers. JGTK >> > is >> > >> > fortunate here. >> > >> > >> > >> > Пнд, 07 Фев 2011, Ric Tikkanz писал(а): >> > >> >> I agree that making keyboard mappings user-configurable is sensible. >> > >> >> However IMO, the default (Out-of-the-Box) configuration should as >> > >> >> similar as possible between the various IDEs. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:15 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> > Ideally keybinding should be user configurable because it is a >> > matter >> > >> of >> > >> >> > personal preference, eg. a certain key chord can be awkward to >> > reach >> > >> in >> > >> >> > some keyboard mappings. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > J701 is now a stable release albeit being crude, so that Jbeta >> > forum >> > >> can >> > >> >> > now take a break. >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > Пнд, 07 Фев 2011, Ric Tikkanz писал(а): >> > >> >> >> I discovered that the Ctrl+j shortcut (same as J602) works to >> > advance >> > >> >> >> from topic to topic but this probably needs to be made more >> > >> >> >> discoverable (Help|Studio|Advance ?). >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Ideally the default JHS and Gtk IDE shortcuts for advancing in a >> > lab >> > >> >> >> (and other common things) should use the same letter - currently >> > JHS >> > >> >> >> is (Esc,a) while Gtk IDE is (Ctrl+j). >> > >> >> >> JHS already uses (Esc,j) to switch to the jijx window, and Gtk IDE >> > >> >> >> already uses (Ctrl+a) as "select all" - a fairly widely-used >> > standard >> > >> >> >> (browsers, editors). >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Currently: >> > >> >> >> JHS Gtk >> > >> >> >> Switch to jijx/Term j T >> > >> >> >> Switch to jijs/Edit J M >> > >> >> >> Advance lab topic a j >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Proposed: >> > >> >> >> JHS Gtk >> > >> >> >> Switch to jijx/Term j j >> > >> >> >> Switch to jijs/Edit J J >> > >> >> >> Advance lab topic t t >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> BTW, as I write this in my browser using Google mail, I notice >> > that >> > >> >> >> they have successfully managed to use the standard Ctrl+ shortcuts >> > >> >> >> that we are used to in desktop apps (i.e. Ctrl+s saves my draft, >> > >> >> >> Ctrl+B for bold etc.). It may therefore be possible to emulate >> > what >> > >> >> >> they've done in JHS at some stage? >> > >> >> >> >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> >> >> For information about J forums see >> > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > -- >> > >> >> > regards, >> > >> >> > ==================================================== >> > >> >> > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 >> > >> >> > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 >> > >> >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> >> > For information about J forums see >> > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> >> For information about J forums see >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > regards, >> > >> > ==================================================== >> > >> > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 >> > >> > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > For information about J forums see >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > -- > regards, > ==================================================== > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
