On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 20:14 -0600, Collins Richey wrote:
> On 10/11/06, Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 11 October 2006 12:49, David Bandel wrote:
> > > My gut feeling is that people focus on the wrong thing. Please
> > > correct me if I'm wrong, as I have no statistics/studies, just
> > > anecdotes.
> >
> > Nope...   I think you've got it right.   I would repeat the old saw:  "guns
> > don't kill people, people kill people"  but that's a red flag to many who
> > want more control.
> >
> > And people will find a weapon no matter what you regulate (even if they want
> > to obey the laws)   Even Dylan and Kliebold had bombs at Columbine that they
> > never used... but they could have done as much damage or more without the
> > guns.
> >
> > And stiffer sentences for those who use guns in violence would also help.
> > This is where Clinton's attempts at gun control  turned out to be 
> > fraudulent.
> > He made (or wanted to make) lots of new laws, but convictions for illegal 
> > use
> > of guns went waaaay   down.    So what's the point of more laws?
> >
> > Anyway, I agree with you,  100%
> >
> 
> I have to agree with David and Bruce. Gun ownership is an important
> facet of our constitutional rights. I choose not to own guns, but I
> vigorously approve of others' rights to own them.
> 
> "Guns don't kill, people kill" is 100% true. Those who kill in anger
> will use a butcher knife, a baseball bat, or whatever is at hand if
> guns are not available. Banning guns will not decrease the likelihood
> of encountering a criminal who has an illicit gun. Drugs have been
> illegal for decades, but their use has not declined.
> 
> I find the born-again believers in gun controls morally equivalent to
> the other born-again believers who have it all figured out how I
> should live my life. I want no part of either. If you don't believe in
> guns, don't own them. If you don't believe in abortions, don't have
> them. If you don't believe in eating meat, don't eat meat. etc.
> 
> And while you're at it, live your life the way you choose, but stay
> out of my face.
I agree with the "leave me alone.." sorta.  But, I'd much rather run away 
from some one with a knife, rock, that sorta stuff than some thing .17 
calibre to 50 calibre, though.
Bob

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