Just and update on the new framework. It is about 90% done. The new framework 
is going together very fast. Should have it ready next week. Then ill start on 
the basic app interface. Once its done, I'll upload it to the got server for 
your viewing pleasure.

Eduardo Martins Lopes <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hello Markus,
>> Awesome!
>
>> >
>> > About my proposal, i succeeded contacting my coleagues but the
>> dissolution
>> > of the team is irreversible and i could not find anyone else within the
>> BR
>> > group (the origin of the people involved is not a matter whatsoever).
>> >
>> NP
>> > On the other hand, Shadowbranch is back and his work is far more complete
>> of
>> > anything that i could provide, i believe AS could stick with what he'll
>> > provide.
>> >
>>
>
>
>> I would definitly like to see you onboard of our team, and I guess SB would
>> need some help with this anyway, so why are you not just joining him in the
>> creation of a APP for us?
>>
>
> That's a nice idea, I suppose SB will share what he had accomplished so far
>so everybody would be to able to opinate
>
>
>>
>>
>> In the mean time,  i will work out on something that i could also use for
>> my
>> > needs.
>> NP as well, but like I said, I would like to see you onboard. There are
>> lots of other tasks still open in our project.
>
>
>I do want to help AS. I already am maintaining some pkgbuilds and currently
>planning on get a few more. I also have some python/c++ skills that i would
>like to put to use
>
>Is thatch still active? I would love to see what he has already did
>regarding automation.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>> >
>> > Sorry for the long delay on the answer, i was trying to reason with them
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > --
>> > Eduardo Martins Lopes
>> > Laboratory of Theoretical Chemistry
>> > Universidade Federal de São Carlos,  SP - Brazil
>> >
>>
>> R,
>>
>> Markus
>> >
>> > 2011/3/16 Daniel Moree
>> >
>> > > The new version is not modular. The new cms is more a basic framework.
>> The
>> > > app will be the primary focus of the release and will be fully imported
>> into
>> > > the app git repo at the AS website.
>> > >
>> > > Eduardo Martins Lopes  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >Hello all,
>> > > >
>> > > >Phillip: What would you require from us? What would the server deps be
>> > > like?
>> > > >You're planning to use PostgreSQL (or even better, be
>> database-agnostic)?
>> > > >@Phillip: it's DB Agnostic as stated by Faelar, but the hosting
>> service
>> > > >would need to have python available, ssh access and fascgi (it's
>> possible
>> > > to
>> > > >use other cgi-like stuff).
>> > > >
>> > > >The big thing is, in my humble opinion, both solutions are tied to a
>> > > one-man
>> > > >show in some sort. Up to now, only one from my team has answered
>> already,
>> > > so
>> > > >not a big group yet. Shadowbranch's solution will become available a
>> bit
>> > > >faster than mine, though i would like to know more about this new
>> release
>> > > >would require the cms frame.
>> > > >
>> > > >@Shadowbranch: does your new version depend on your cms? or it would
>> be
>> > > able
>> > > >to run on it's own?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >Cheers
>> > > >--
>> > > >Eduardo Martins Lopes
>> > > >Laboratory of Theoretical Chemistry
>> > > >Universidade Federal de São Carlos,  SP - Brazil
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >2011/3/16
>> > > >
>> > > >>   A quick look at the first file (admin.php) show me that :
>> > > >> - You're using global, which is usually not a good idea.
>> > > >> - You're calling the echo function many times, why not closing the
>> > > barket
>> > > >> and writing strait html instead ?
>> > > >> - You're embedding things likeand in the code, which is bad for
>> > > >> maintainability, and also are deprecated and should be managed by a
>> CSS
>> > > or
>> > > >> template file instead.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> - Please comment your code ! How can we help if we don't know what
>> the
>> > > >> program is supposed to do ?
>> > > >>
>> > > >>  Global is fine as the core of the CMS turns off registering globals
>> as
>> > > >> that is a huge security whole and the only items globalized are
>> config
>> > > >> information, a link to the database, and a link to the users class.
>> > > Again,
>> > > >> my CMS was written with security first, functionality second. So far
>> it
>> > > has
>> > > >> proven more secure than any other CMS I've tested. But, the version
>> in
>> > > >> current use has outgrown it's usefulness as a more advanced system.
>> > > Hence a
>> > > >> complete rewrite. Again focused on security first. The new rewrite
>> will
>> > > >> effectively remove globalized variables, only 3 of which exist
>> anyways.
>> > > >> I do call echo a lot and using straight HTML can make things
>> simpler. I
>> > > >> think it's more a programmers choice. I've seen it all from programs
>> > > that
>> > > >> just appended to a variable that is then finally output to the
>> browser
>> > > to
>> > > >> straight HTML that then has PHP plugged into it. I think all ways
>> are
>> > > viable
>> > > >> and accomplish the same task. Really up to the programmer(s) in my
>> > > opinion.
>> > > >> True, CSS should maintain these items, which it does, only very very
>> > > >> limited items are used in the code to setup basic HTML elements that
>> can
>> > > be
>> > > >> modified within the CSS. What you see is the initial rough draft
>> that
>> > > was
>> > > >> not ment to be shown to the public. Hence no comments. I assure you
>> my
>> > > code
>> > > >> is commented heavily.
>> > > >>  I'm open to ideas on the output method to use when dumping PHP.
>> > > >> Personally, I don't like to output straight HTML with PHP code
>> plugged
>> > > in.
>> > > >> It prevents me from being able to make massive changes as my system
>> only
>> > > >> uses the most basic HTML elements to show some of the data. There
>> are
>> > > other
>> > > >> modules with virtually no HTML code. Over my 6 years of PHP I've
>> found
>> > > that
>> > > >> echoing straight out when needed is efficient enough. I have tried
>> > > straight
>> > > >> HTML with PHP plugged in, so I'm not just stating from no knowledge.
>> > > I've
>> > > >> also tried dumping output to a global variable that is then output
>> by
>> > > the
>> > > >> final processor command. It can be useful to do it that way, but
>> I've
>> > > found
>> > > >> it harder to debug sometimes.
>> > > >>
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