Am 24.03.2011 um 20:03 schrieb Daniel Moree <[email protected]>:
> Just and update on the new framework. It is about 90% done. The new framework > is going together very fast. Should have it ready next week. Then ill start > on the basic app interface. Once its done, I'll upload it to the got server > for your viewing pleasure. Could you post your changes to the Git repository, so that Eduardo and others could support you? R, Markus > > Eduardo Martins Lopes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Markus, >>> Awesome! >> >>>> >>>> About my proposal, i succeeded contacting my coleagues but the >>> dissolution >>>> of the team is irreversible and i could not find anyone else within the >>> BR >>>> group (the origin of the people involved is not a matter whatsoever). >>>> >>> NP >>>> On the other hand, Shadowbranch is back and his work is far more complete >>> of >>>> anything that i could provide, i believe AS could stick with what he'll >>>> provide. >>>> >>> >> >> >>> I would definitly like to see you onboard of our team, and I guess SB would >>> need some help with this anyway, so why are you not just joining him in the >>> creation of a APP for us? >>> >> >> That's a nice idea, I suppose SB will share what he had accomplished so far >> so everybody would be to able to opinate >> >> >>> >>> >>> In the mean time, i will work out on something that i could also use for >>> my >>>> needs. >>> NP as well, but like I said, I would like to see you onboard. There are >>> lots of other tasks still open in our project. >> >> >> I do want to help AS. I already am maintaining some pkgbuilds and currently >> planning on get a few more. I also have some python/c++ skills that i would >> like to put to use >> >> Is thatch still active? I would love to see what he has already did >> regarding automation. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >>>> >>>> Sorry for the long delay on the answer, i was trying to reason with them >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> -- >>>> Eduardo Martins Lopes >>>> Laboratory of Theoretical Chemistry >>>> Universidade Federal de São Carlos, SP - Brazil >>>> >>> >>> R, >>> >>> Markus >>>> >>>> 2011/3/16 Daniel Moree >>>> >>>>> The new version is not modular. The new cms is more a basic framework. >>> The >>>>> app will be the primary focus of the release and will be fully imported >>> into >>>>> the app git repo at the AS website. >>>>> >>>>> Eduardo Martins Lopes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Phillip: What would you require from us? What would the server deps be >>>>> like? >>>>>> You're planning to use PostgreSQL (or even better, be >>> database-agnostic)? >>>>>> @Phillip: it's DB Agnostic as stated by Faelar, but the hosting >>> service >>>>>> would need to have python available, ssh access and fascgi (it's >>> possible >>>>> to >>>>>> use other cgi-like stuff). >>>>>> >>>>>> The big thing is, in my humble opinion, both solutions are tied to a >>>>> one-man >>>>>> show in some sort. Up to now, only one from my team has answered >>> already, >>>>> so >>>>>> not a big group yet. Shadowbranch's solution will become available a >>> bit >>>>>> faster than mine, though i would like to know more about this new >>> release >>>>>> would require the cms frame. >>>>>> >>>>>> @Shadowbranch: does your new version depend on your cms? or it would >>> be >>>>> able >>>>>> to run on it's own? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Eduardo Martins Lopes >>>>>> Laboratory of Theoretical Chemistry >>>>>> Universidade Federal de São Carlos, SP - Brazil >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/3/16 >>>>>> >>>>>>> A quick look at the first file (admin.php) show me that : >>>>>>> - You're using global, which is usually not a good idea. >>>>>>> - You're calling the echo function many times, why not closing the >>>>> barket >>>>>>> and writing strait html instead ? >>>>>>> - You're embedding things likeand in the code, which is bad for >>>>>>> maintainability, and also are deprecated and should be managed by a >>> CSS >>>>> or >>>>>>> template file instead. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Please comment your code ! How can we help if we don't know what >>> the >>>>>>> program is supposed to do ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Global is fine as the core of the CMS turns off registering globals >>> as >>>>>>> that is a huge security whole and the only items globalized are >>> config >>>>>>> information, a link to the database, and a link to the users class. >>>>> Again, >>>>>>> my CMS was written with security first, functionality second. So far >>> it >>>>> has >>>>>>> proven more secure than any other CMS I've tested. But, the version >>> in >>>>>>> current use has outgrown it's usefulness as a more advanced system. >>>>> Hence a >>>>>>> complete rewrite. Again focused on security first. The new rewrite >>> will >>>>>>> effectively remove globalized variables, only 3 of which exist >>> anyways. >>>>>>> I do call echo a lot and using straight HTML can make things >>> simpler. I >>>>>>> think it's more a programmers choice. I've seen it all from programs >>>>> that >>>>>>> just appended to a variable that is then finally output to the >>> browser >>>>> to >>>>>>> straight HTML that then has PHP plugged into it. I think all ways >>> are >>>>> viable >>>>>>> and accomplish the same task. Really up to the programmer(s) in my >>>>> opinion. >>>>>>> True, CSS should maintain these items, which it does, only very very >>>>>>> limited items are used in the code to setup basic HTML elements that >>> can >>>>> be >>>>>>> modified within the CSS. What you see is the initial rough draft >>> that >>>>> was >>>>>>> not ment to be shown to the public. Hence no comments. I assure you >>> my >>>>> code >>>>>>> is commented heavily. >>>>>>> I'm open to ideas on the output method to use when dumping PHP. >>>>>>> Personally, I don't like to output straight HTML with PHP code >>> plugged >>>>> in. >>>>>>> It prevents me from being able to make massive changes as my system >>> only >>>>>>> uses the most basic HTML elements to show some of the data. There >>> are >>>>> other >>>>>>> modules with virtually no HTML code. Over my 6 years of PHP I've >>> found >>>>> that >>>>>>> echoing straight out when needed is efficient enough. I have tried >>>>> straight >>>>>>> HTML with PHP plugged in, so I'm not just stating from no knowledge. >>>>> I've >>>>>>> also tried dumping output to a global variable that is then output >>> by >>>>> the >>>>>>> final processor command. It can be useful to do it that way, but >>> I've >>>>> found >>>>>>> it harder to debug sometimes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> ArchServer Project General Mail List >>>>>>> Post messages to: [email protected] >>>>>>> Administer your subscription: >>>>> http://lists.archserver.org/listinfo/general >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> ArchServer Project General Mail List >>>>>> Post messages to: [email protected] >>>>>> Administer your subscription: >>>>> http://lists.archserver.org/listinfo/general >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> ArchServer Project General Mail List >>>>> Post messages to: [email protected] >>>>> Administer your subscription: >>> http://lists.archserver.org/listinfo/general >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ArchServer Project General Mail List >>>> Post messages to: [email protected] >>>> Administer your subscription: >>> http://lists.archserver.org/listinfo/general >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ArchServer Project General Mail List >>> Post messages to: [email protected] >>> Administer your subscription: http://lists.archserver.org/listinfo/general >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ArchServer Project General Mail List >> Post messages to: [email protected] >> Administer your subscription: http://lists.archserver.org/listinfo/general > _______________________________________________ > ArchServer Project General Mail List > Post messages to: [email protected] > Administer your subscription: http://lists.archserver.org/listinfo/general _______________________________________________ ArchServer Project General Mail List Post messages to: [email protected] Administer your subscription: http://lists.archserver.org/listinfo/general

