Okay, i need to look deeper into Karaf anyway, not just for Exam2 alone. So
expect stupid questions there. ;)

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Andreas Pieber <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well, in fact, except for the features part, it's not that much more
> :) But for integration-tests (pax-exam) it would be so much easier if
> we could simply unzip/untar the karaf distribution and run the
> integration tests against it. Since karaf itself is no OSGi engine
> (but rather uses felix or equinox) I'm not so sure if anyone else
> could benefit by this...
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Toni Menzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Remember FrameworkFactory is OSGi Core (4.2) API, so that does not just
> > benefit Pax Exam but .. practically anyone.
> > But i don't really know what makes Karaf special yet. So far i though of
> > Karaf always as: set of launchers & provisioning infrastructure.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Andreas Pieber <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> @Toni: Mhm I think this should be possible.
> >> @Karaf-Guys: How do you feel about implementing the FrameworkFactory
> >> for Karaf and making Karaf itself an OSGi-Framework for pax-exam2? I
> >> think a simple alternative solution could be to provide an
> >> karaf-kick-starter which actually implements FrameworkFactory but
> >> downloads the latest apache-karaf.zip/tar.gz, unpacks it and
> >> kickstarts it? WDYT?
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Andreas
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Toni Menzel <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Andreas Pieber <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Toni Menzel <[email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > I want to look at Karaf because for the Exam2 release we need to
> >> >> > balance
> >> >> > between dropped features from exam1 and real bugs.
> >> >> > There are some things that have been dropped on purpose:
> >> >> > - like the ability to wire @Configurations to @Test methods via a
> >> >> > pattern
> >> >> > matching. This may be useful for some cases.. but i haven't seen it
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > use
> >> >> > anywhere.
> >> >> > Some stuff i hope can wait until 2.1:
> >> >> > - maven plugin -> i don't really like it in Exam2 because it limits
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > only the PaxRunner container (now,you have more;) But i think
> people
> >> >> > use
> >> >> > it.
> >> >>
> >> >> BTW, maybe it would be possible to use karaf itself as testcontainer
> >> >> instead of e.g. felix or equinox?
> >> >>
> >> > Well thats a really good idea!
> >> > The simpliest way would be if Karaf identifies itself as a OSGi
> >> > Container
> >> > (provides a FrameworkFactory). Then we can do it without a code
> change.
> >> > Otherwise i have to look into what Karaf actually makes "Karaf".
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Toni
> >> >> >> > -> deutsch ? ;)
> >> >> >> hä? ;)
> >> >> > At some point i thought you are also german speaking..
> >> >>
> >> >> Was my Denglish that obvious? ;) I'm from Austria, so yes Deutsch :)
> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Kind regards,
> >> >> >> Andreas
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Toni Menzel <
> [email protected]>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Yes, i actually just started yesterday with build problems.
> >> >> >> > Will push changes to https://github.com/tonit/karafonexam2 when
> >> >> >> > things
> >> >> >> > come
> >> >> >> > up.
> >> >> >> > Actually i was hoping for a not that long running build in order
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > just
> >> >> >> > focus on the IT projects.
> >> >> >> > ttyl, thanks!
> >> >> >> > Toni
> >> >> >> > -> deutsch ? ;)
> >> >> >> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Andreas Pieber
> >> >> >> > <[email protected]>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Hey Toni,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> It would be much easier for me if you could push what you
> already
> >> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> >> changed at Karaf to e.g. github and I can start from there?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Kind regards,
> >> >> >> >> Andreas
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Toni Menzel
> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > yep. But technically that should be optional. But base will
> be
> >> >> >> >> > released,
> >> >> >> >> > too.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Andreas Pieber
> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]>
> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> BTW, I've just seen that you also have to release the base
> >> >> >> >> >> packages
> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> order to get out pax-runner-1.7 :)
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Kind regards,
> >> >> >> >> >> Andreas
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Toni Menzel
> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi Guys,
> >> >> >> >> >> > i need to make a couple of releases in order to kick out a
> >> >> >> >> >> > RC
> >> >> >> >> >> > for
> >> >> >> >> >> > Pax
> >> >> >> >> >> > Exam
> >> >> >> >> >> > 2.0
> >> >> >> >> >> > The only direct dependency is Pax URL 1.2.6 and Pax Runner
> >> >> >> >> >> > 1.7
> >> >> >> >> >> > (because
> >> >> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >> >> > the new Aether stuff).
> >> >> >> >> >> > So, those are the ones that will get a release, perhaps
> >> >> >> >> >> > already
> >> >> >> >> >> > today,
> >> >> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> >> >> > possibly tomorrow.
> >> >> >> >> >> > Question: any objections or issues with those ?
> >> >> >> >> >> > I am currently trying to port Karaf to Exam2 but so far
> >> >> >> >> >> > having
> >> >> >> >> >> > problems
> >> >> >> >> >> > fighting the build.
> >> >> >> >> >> > So, once that is done, i will share & release the RC.
> >> >> >> >> >> > Maybe someone from Karaf (Guillaume, Andreas) ? Can help
> >> >> >> >> >> > out?
> >> >> >> >> >> > Toni
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