Hi Gareth,

great I already pulled another merge into the 2.1 line.
I'd like to dig into the PAXWEB-382 issue a bit more.
Would be great if that one could be solved for 2.1 also

So if you could wait a bit till Monday I would really appreciate it.
If you like you can ride that release train then.

regards, Achim

2012/7/28 Gareth Collins <gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com>:
> Hello Achim,
>
> Done.
>
> So what else would you like to get in for a 2.1.0 release? I am asking
> because I would like to make an official release
> with my changes :).
>
> thanks again,
> Gareth
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:26 AM, Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com> 
> wrote:
>> Hi Gareth,
>>
>> yeah that would be great I'm kind of drowning in work right now :)
>>
>> Thanks a lot, Achim
>>
>>
>> 2012/7/26 Gareth Collins <gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com>:
>>> Hello Achim,
>>>
>>> I could create the branch and pull my changes into master. Would you
>>> like me to do that?
>>>
>>> Gareth
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>
>>>> thanx again for taking care of this :)
>>>>
>>>> looks good so far.
>>>> I wanted to create a new branch for the 2.0.x line and after that the
>>>> trunk will go for 2.1.0 but I didn't find the spare
>>>> time yet. So a merge will take a bit :)
>>>>
>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>
>>>> 2012/7/25 Gareth Collins <gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> Hi Achim,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have added some test cases and added support for setting the Pax Web
>>>>> configuration file connector names
>>>>> (I added new comments to PAXWEB-396). If you could take another look
>>>>> and let me know, it would be much
>>>>> appreciated. Feel free to suggest new names for the test case classes...:)
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for the issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did take a look the code looks good so far.
>>>>>> How did you test it till now? Probably an enhanced
>>>>>> war that you use. I'd suggest you create a sample
>>>>>> war in the samples and use it in the itests.
>>>>>> This way we have a sample on how to use the
>>>>>> new features and also a nice test for automatic testing
>>>>>> and debugging. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 19.07.2012 20:50, schrieb Gareth Collins:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have added the issue here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://team.ops4j.org/browse/PAXWEB-396
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have also checked in an initial implementation into my fork on
>>>>>>> github (details in the issue comments).
>>>>>>> These changes worked for my me (the implementation is
>>>>>>> straight-forward). If you get a change to take a look,
>>>>>>>   it would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Achim Nierbeck 
>>>>>>> <bcanh...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> could you please open a "new feature" issue for this and add some
>>>>>>>> comments on what
>>>>>>>> we agreed on in Jira. This way it's easier for tracking and to place
>>>>>>>> the version this is
>>>>>>>> supposed to be released ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks, Achim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2012/7/16 Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> comments inline:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2012/7/16 Gareth Collins <gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One more question...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I see that the default connectors setup using the Pax Web
>>>>>>>>>> configuration file don't appear to have
>>>>>>>>>> names. Would you mind if I added two new configuration items for 
>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>> default connectors
>>>>>>>>>> (perhaps with default names "default" and "secureDefault"?)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> sure go ahead, haven't had the need for names yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW, feel free to tell me this is too much detail for the mailing
>>>>>>>>>> list. If yes, I will start emailing
>>>>>>>>>> you directly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unless no one complains and I'm sure all others are
>>>>>>>>> OK with it keep asking :)
>>>>>>>>> This is still an OpenSource project so this way it's also
>>>>>>>>> a nice way of documenting the reasons behind decisions.
>>>>>>>>> And one might always come around with a better suited
>>>>>>>>> idea this way :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No Problem, I'm glad that you stepped up for it :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>>> <bcanh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> my comments inline.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/7/13 Gareth Collins <gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A further question while I have it on my mind:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) If I wanted to verify the host http header is valid (i.e.to
>>>>>>>>>>>> protect against a user faking the host), before routing a request 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>>>>>> web app, would that be something that could be done in Pax Web...or
>>>>>>>>>>>> could that only be done in Jetty?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if this could be done with jetty or is already a 
>>>>>>>>>>> "valid"
>>>>>>>>>>> method
>>>>>>>>>>> there. So Pax web might be a good place. But beware this test might
>>>>>>>>>>> stale the startup of Pax Web when it tries to look for a valid
>>>>>>>>>>> address.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) Would it be a foolish idea to be able to choose connectors via 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Manifest Header (potentially called "Web-Connectors", again with a
>>>>>>>>>>>> default in the Pax Web Configuration)? Something like what is shown
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Alternative" here (I am assuming that the preferred multiple jetty
>>>>>>>>>>>> servers implementation would be a substantial amount of work):
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well what already can be done is the posibility to configure
>>>>>>>>>>> multiple Jetty Connectors through the jetty.xml.
>>>>>>>>>>> So I think adding a special Manifest Entry for the webapp might be a
>>>>>>>>>>> nice addon.
>>>>>>>>>>> I think that this might be even a nice idea to make this
>>>>>>>>>>> configuration somehow available for servlets beeing registered 
>>>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>> the http service or through the whiteboard extender.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/How+to+serve+webbapp+A+from+portA+and+webapp+B+from+portB
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps this is the better internal/external security option?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Gareth Collins
>>>>>>>>>>>> <gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe I am already a member of ops4j team (garethcollins) on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> github. I have forked pax-web to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> start work on this. Once I am done, if you could verify/provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> feedback on my change it would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, this has proven to be a quite practial thing in the past 
>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are happy that I have not done anything completely foolish
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have verified the change works then I will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pull and approve my pull.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A couple of questions I am a little unsure of yet:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) Would this be a reasonable prioritization for setting virtual
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosts?:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      (a) If virtual hosts is set in jetty-web.xml, use that value.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      (b) Else if set in Web-VirtualHosts header, use that value.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      (c) Else default to the configured value. If that configured
>>>>>>>>>>>>> value
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is null, virtual hosts should not be set.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sounds fair enough since a jetty-web.xml might be a valid
>>>>>>>>>>> configuration for a "standalon" war also.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) If Pax Web configuration is changed via configuration admin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pax Web restart...or does it try to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> only change the delta somehow (handling deltas may potentially 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> task harder)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since it's a managed Service the default behaviour of OSGi is taking
>>>>>>>>>>> care of this.
>>>>>>>>>>> So the service in question is stoped and restarted. In this case you
>>>>>>>>>>> don't need
>>>>>>>>>>> think about a delta behaviour :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Actually I have to thank you, cause this is the work the community
>>>>>>>>>>> needs to be a successfull
>>>>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:29 AM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bcanh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks for sharing your thoughts, my comments inline :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/7/11 Gareth Collins <gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a proposal (which solves my problem). Would this be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foolish?:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Proposals are never foolish, it's always a good starting point 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good discussion :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) Add a new Manifest Header Web-VirtualHosts which lists the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> virtual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hosts for the webapp.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Their are at least two advantages of setting the virtual hosts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this way:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      (a) it is webapp container type independent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      (b) the header can be set as part of the war url (I have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arbitrary header names this way in the past).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A new Manifest Header actually could be really useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So +1 for this Idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) Add a new configuration item for Pax Web, which, if not null
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> describes a default set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Virtual Hosts (i.e. to allow restrict by default for webapps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the activemq or karaf console).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for the configuration item.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The default should be null so I'm quite fine with this idea  :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a look at the Pax Web code. It doesn't appear that it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that hard to implement (I believe I can see how to pass the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via the WebApp through to the Jetty ContextHandler). If I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implemented
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such a feature would you merge it in?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all thank you for willing to contribute,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second we at ops4j rather give you direct access then applying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patches :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So If you give me your Github Account name I'll add you to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committers list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want me to review this before "merge" to trunk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can either start a branch in the ops4j repo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or start your own branch in your own repository and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happily review it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It turned out in the past that this was a quite good way of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to thank you for committing :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bcanh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry it took me a bit longer :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes you need to make sure the jetty-web.xml file is contained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inside
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the war/wab next to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the std. web.xml file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Concerning the jetty.xml file you might be able to "alter"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certain behaviour for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allready deployed applications, though I have to admitt 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this probably won't work due to the way the war/wabs are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deployed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/7/9 Gareth Collins <gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for the response. I did look at the Jetty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wiki and it wasn't obvious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to me how I could do what I think I need via jetty.xml. I will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep researching.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Say I wanted to add this jetty-web.xml file to the war/wab on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (because I don't know until install
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what the virtual hosts will be). Would this be something that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> logically would be part of the war
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> url handler...or would this need to be something different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since it would be jetty specific - e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a "jvh - Jetty Virtual Host" url handler?)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just trying to understand how this potentially could be done 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assuming that if I wanted this I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to implement it).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bcanh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments inline
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/7/6 Gareth Collins <gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just letting you know I have migrated all my webapps over to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the pax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web trunk (i.e. which includes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fix) successfully. It is working great now. Thankyou!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great to hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always welcome :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next thing I wanted to try out was the new Virtual Hosts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at the pax web examples
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the jetty documentation. For pax web, it appears like 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do this is via a file (jetty-web.xml) in the war.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Is this correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed as pax-web does only "configure" jetty it's the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jetty-web.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for configuring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I ask because I was hoping to restrict access to third-party
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (such as the activemq web war or the karaf console)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to specific virtual hosts (i.e. I don't want these on an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> external
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facing port/IP). Is that something I can do without editing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these third-party wars and adding the jetty-web.xml file 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to, I have to - just seeing if I am missing something here)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok, to restrict to specific virtual hosts is a kind of tricky
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please follow the instructions in [1].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you will have a hard time configuring this to different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ports.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I haven't tried yet but might be a possible solution to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alter certain wars is to try to configure this via the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jetty.xml.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Jetty/Howto/Configure_Virtual_Hosts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Gareth Collins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gareth.o.coll...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks very much!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bcanh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just took care of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to release a new version of Pax web ASAP, latest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beginning of next
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 19.06.2012 19:18, schrieb Gareth Collins:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Achim,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Added:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://team.ops4j.org/browse/PAXWEB-384
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can have a go at fixing it next week (as it is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> showstopper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for me)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I get back home.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Achim Nierbeck
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <bcanh...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gareth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could you open an issue for this, I think limiting this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just 2 *.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files is probably wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is probably more a thinking of the old times where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the web.xml was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to be a single file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opening this to include a jetty-web.xml is probably the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause for this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Achim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 16.06.2012 05:08, schrieb Gareth Collins:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I see that some new software has been updated 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (such as Pax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web 2.0.0 - thankyou!) I decided to go back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and try to update my OSGi dependencies and streamline 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which is why I was interested in removing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the start ordering dependency in pax confman).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway one of the first things I am trying to do in my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment is to get the updated 5.6.0 activemq web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to play nicely with the updated Pax Web. I am getting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pax Web and I am not sure what it means (this is with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equinox 3.6.2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the bndtools launcher). Is this suggesting there 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong with the activemq web console war or is this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something else? There are seven XML files in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> activemq
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WEB-INF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:50:23,521 | DEBUG | Gogo shell |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher[216] | []:[] | Found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/web.xml,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/webconsole-default.xml,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/webconsole-embedded.xml,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/webconsole-invm.xml,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/webconsole-jndi.xml,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/webconsole-properties.xml,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundleentry://11.fwk2060982148/WEB-INF/webconsole-query.xml]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:50:23,527 | INFO  | Executor: 1 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..war.internal.WebXmlObserver[117] | []:[] | Using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [activemqweb] as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web application context name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:50:23,527 | DEBUG | Framework Event Dispatcher |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..apache.activemq.activemq-web-console[?] | []:[] |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BundleEvent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STARTED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:50:23,527 | ERROR | Executor: 1 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..war.internal.WebXmlObserver[124] | []:[] | Number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xml's was not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lesser than 3. Was: 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ops4j.lang.PreConditionException: Number of xml's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not lesser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 3. Was: 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ops4j.lang.PreConditionException.validateLesserThan(PreConditionException.java:155)[33:org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-extender-war:2.0.0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ops4j.pax.web.extender.war.internal.WebXmlObserver.addingEntries(WebXmlObserver.java:121)[33:org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-extender-war:2.0.0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ops4j.pax.swissbox.extender.BundleWatcher$3.run(BundleWatcher.java:224)[33:org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-extender-war:2.0.0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:441)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:303)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:138)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.access$301(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:98)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor$ScheduledFutureTask.run(ScheduledThreadPoolExecutor.java:206)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.runTask(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:886)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:908)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:680)[:1.6.0_31]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:50:23,528 | DEBUG | Executor: 1 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..war.internal.WebEventDispatcher[130] | []:[] | 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> web event
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebEvent [replay=false, type=5,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle=org.apache.activemq.activemq-web-console_5.6.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [11],
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extenderBundle=org.ops4j.pax.web.pax-web-extender-war_2.0.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  [33],
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause=org.ops4j.lang.PreConditionException: Number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xml's was not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lesser than 3. Was: 7, timestamp=1339807823528,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contextPath=/activemqweb, collisionIds=null,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> httpService=null,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> httpContext=null] for bundle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.activemq.activemq-web-console
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20:50:23,531 | DEBUG | WebListenerExecutor: 2 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..pax.web.pax-web-extender-war[?] | []:[] |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org/osgi/service/web/FAILED
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone could indicate what this error may mean (is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there really a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> max xml file limit in this directory?), it would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gareth
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