See http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html for info on using the CMS directly.
Ralph On May 31, 2012, at 3:23 AM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote: > My understanding is if you want to use their system we can use their web UI > to edit stuff and we don't really have to do anything. Whatever you do, you > can just use the area I already created which is documented in the Jira issue. > > Ralph > > On May 30, 2012, at 11:48 PM, Ivan Habunek <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Agreed about Perl. Not a fan either. Also I think speed will not be a >> factor for the logging web for a long time, maybe never. >> >> I have never used Quercus so I'm not an expert. There is a maven >> plugin [1]. I'm not sure if you need to run the Resin server to make >> it work. However, this would make the build more complicated. I mean, >> running PHP in Java? :) I would prefer to keep it simple. >> >> I see 3 possiblities: >> a) Start using their supported Django-like templates [2], this >> probably would not be that much work if we can survive a bit of Perl. >> b) Wait for infra to setup PHP (they did not say thew would not do it, >> just that "It'll take time"). ETA unknown. >> c) Switch back to building the logging web manually and commiting it >> to svn as originally planned. >> >> If you wish I can attempt to make the first option work. This might be >> the simplest solution since it would eliminate the need to pack Twig >> and Textile with the project. >> >> I just hope their Textile support (version 0.2) is any good. :-) >> >> Regards, >> Ivan >> >> [1] http://wiki.caucho.com/Maven2 >> [2] http://www.dotiac.com/cgi-bin/index.pl >> >> On 31 May 2012 07:38, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Infra has updated https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4699 and >>> basically said they aren't going to install PHP anytime soon and that we >>> should convert to using something Perl-based. I've gotta say that I used >>> Perl for a while many years ago in my day job and absolutely hated it. I >>> would only work on the tool periodically and found that every time I came >>> back to work on it I had to re-learn Perl all over again. So basically, I'd >>> prefer to find other options. Since they support Maven based builds they >>> obviously support Java so is it possible we could use Quercus instead of >>> native PHP? I know very little about PHP to know if this makes a lot of >>> sense or not. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On May 29, 2012, at 11:06 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: >>> >>> I updated the Jira issue with the 4 items Daniel told me needed to be done. >>> I did the first 3 and now I think we are just waiting for Infra to finish. >>> If one of you would like to ping them that would be fine with me as I'm not >>> going to be able to do much in the next 24 hrs. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> On May 27, 2012, at 1:28 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: >>> >>> I've checked in what Ivan did to >>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/cms/trunk as Herve >>> suggested. I found 1 bug in build.php and fixed that and added a >>> requirement to specify the output directory on the command line. I also >>> moved the content and templates to the appropriate directories. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> On May 23, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: >>> >>> Thanks. Please let me know when we are at the point where I can try to add >>> Log4j 2 on to the site. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> On May 23, 2012, at 9:30 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote: >>> >>> I have given infra the requirements. We're waiting for them to set it up. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ivan >>> >>> On 23 May 2012 17:57, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ivan, >>>> >>>> Were you able to get a test site to work yet? >>>> >>>> Ralph >>>> >>>> On May 22, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote: >>>> >>>> Yeah, sorry I haven't been more involved in the discussion. I've been to >>>> the phpday conference in Verona, and haven't had time to catch up. >>>> >>>> I posted a comment to the INFRA ticket with the required information. I'll >>>> keep in the loop from now on to answer any other questions. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Ivan >>>> >>>> >>>> On 22 May 2012 13:40, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ivan, >>>>> >>>>> Daniel has updated the Jira and asked "Can you provide a list of >>>>> dependencies of your site's build process? (as port names -- >>>>> see www.freshports.org -- for those deps that are in ports)" >>>>> >>>>> Since you have actually built the test site could you possibly help with >>>>> this? The issue is https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4699. >>>>> >>>>> Ralph >>>>> >>>>> On May 2, 2012, at 2:11 AM, Ivan Habunek <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was away for a bit so I didn't comment earlier. >>>>> >>>>> My idea is to generate the site using Twig [1], a nice PHP templating >>>>> engine, in combination with Textile markup [2], which is much more >>>>> versatile >>>>> than most other common markup languages (such as markdown, apt, ...). >>>>> >>>>> I have already converted the logging web site. The code can be found >>>>> here: >>>>> >>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/experimental-twig-textile/ >>>>> >>>>> And I have deployed the generated web for demo here: >>>>> http://bezdomni.net/logging/ >>>>> >>>>> This idea is obviously not compatible with the Apache CMS solution. >>>>> Frankly, I would prefer this solution to the CMS since, from what I have >>>>> seen, the CMS is quite a pain to use. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Ivan >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://twig.sensiolabs.org/ >>>>> [2] http://textile.sitemonks.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2 May 2012 10:44, Christian Grobmeier <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:06 AM, Ralph Goers >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What i thought was, why not to clean it up? Your proposed solutions >>>>>>> seem to be the cleanest way and updating everything just when we need >>>>>>> an update to the main site feels somehow wrong >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe has now proposed using the CMS for the main Logging web site along >>>>>>> with expaths.txt + svnpubsub for each sub-project. Each sub-project >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> then use svn externals so they could be independently managed. This >>>>>>> sounds >>>>>>> perfect to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> OK I understand svn externals is like "symlinks for svn". Sounds ok. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am a bit concerned on the CMS. Ivan has put much effort in the website >>>>>> design: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/logging/site/branches/experimental-redesign/src/site/pages/ >>>>>> >>>>>> I will ask infra (on the ticket) if it is possible to either use that >>>>>> design for the CMS or if we can bypass the CMS feature for this one >>>>>> too... >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Christian >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ralph >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>>> https://www.timeandbill.de >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
