On 12/17/05, David Sean Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Raphaël Luta wrote:
> >
> > I'm not familiar enough with the current feature level of Pluto portal 
> > driver
> > to have a definite idea but the best technical foundation.
> > I know Jetspeed spreing based architecture and pipeline processing is 
> > supposed
> > to allow us to scale it down easily, but until somebody actually tries it's
> > more a theoretical possibility than a reality.
> >
> That is exactly what we are proposing to do.
> We believe it is possible. Give us a chance to prove it first before
> diving into something completely new, which might end up conflicting
> with and competing with the existing Jetspeed project and community.

I find this statement a little misleading.  No one is suggesting we
start something completely new.  In fact, what I've continually said
is that we need to take a look at what allready exists (between
jetspeed, cocoon, and pluto) and refactor it into a basic portal which
is distributed and developed seperately.

>
> We have a 2.01 release to put out next week. We will then start work on
> a lightweight assembly of Jetspeed-2. Additionally, we will start
> writing light-weight implementations of most of the database components.
>
> We are a small team at Apache Portals. It is essential that we all work
> together towards the same vision. This is what Apache is all about.

+100 - but we need to find the same vision.  It's fairly apparent that
we're not on the same page yet.  I think the first step is diving into
the work that has been done in each project and begining to analyze
what we have.  I have begun to look into jetspeed in more depth (and
hopefully will have time in the near future to look into cocoon as
well).  Has anyone else had a chance to look at the changes that have
occured in pluto?  What are your thoughts?

>
> > In the end, I think the critical issue will be community: Pluto currently 
> > has
> > a real stake in providing a light portal since it's required for it to 
> > deliver
> > its second main use case (portlet development testbed) whereas Jetspeed has
> > less an incentive to do it (the community rather tends to add feature than
> > keeping it small and simple).
> >
> We are adding new features all the time, true, however, features are
> added within the context of pluggable component solutions.
>
> One of the most distinguishing features of Jetspeed is the component
> model with ISVs in mind. It is the basis of the Jetspeed philosophy to
> be able to assemble and plug-in components to specific target, be it a
> heavy-weight full featured enterprise portal or a light-weight embedded
> portal.
>
> Examples of embedding and specialized solutions:
>
> * Jetspeed-2 running embedded inside Jetspeed 1.6
> * Jetspeed-2 running embedded inside Jahia Portal
> * Jetspeed-2 running on top of JBoss dedicated for a specific purpose
> (http://wfmopen.sourceforge.net/)
>

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