Ate Douma wrote:
>Sorry David, I'm at a loss here how to respond to all of this.
>>
>> You are now accusing me of being overly protective of Jetspeed
>> while you are
>> suggesting we should split it up and refactor in a way Jetspeed
>> itself will be not much
>> more than a thin little shell around some "generic" portal framework?
>>
>> I see *no* merit in that.
>>

I really don't see that in David statements. he'd like to build a
lightweight portal, sees some issues in the current state of Jetspeed
but still wants to have common shared solution instead of simply building a
competing portal in Pluto as it could have been done.

Please don't read a conclusion into a simple question. The answer may very
well be Jetspeed, it's just a matter of *explaining* to all people not
intimately familiar with it how it can serve this function.

>> But, this doesn't mean I or other Jetspeed team members are not =20
>> willing to discuss and work together with
>> the other Apache Portals and Cocoon Portals team to see how we can =20
>> help out with concrete needs from end-users and/or other projects =20
>> like Cocoon or Pluto.
>> If you or others are interested in some (or even a lot) of our =20
>> components I'm more than willing to help out integrating them. Or =20
>> we can further generalize them so they can be used fully independent.
>> There I see community merit.
>>

Good. Then would you agree to a possible conclusion of this discussion that
would be to create a set of shared components coming for either Jetspeed or
Pluto driver or Cocoon portal, and then build three different Apache Portals
"products" ?
- Pluto driver for basic developer testing
- Jetspeed for medium/high-end deployments
- Portal light for small scale/medium deployments

In the end, it's just a matter of creating a product line that can address
most needs while sharing as much as possible to reduce duplication of efforts.

-- 
Raphaël Luta - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache Portals - Enterprise Portal in Java
http://portals.apache.org/

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