Hi, See my comments inline. On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Amila Suriarachchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi, > > By going through all these discussions what I can think of is that going for > TLP neither make it better nor worse. > >> Ok why do you want to move Axiom out from Axis2 , because it has a big >> advantage when it is there in WS than in Axis2. > > yes. The advantage here is that they have separate svn and they can have > independent releases. Axis2 can depends on particular Axiom Version while > people developing Axiom. or Rampart/Sandesha can use a pirticular > Axis2 version (if need) and can have independent releases. > > So in this scene WS project has broken things into separate manageable > components with the time. Of course this has happened generally with the > time and may happen in future as well. > > What is the big management advantage we get moving them to TLPs?
Clarification here. There is not going to be axiom.apache.org or rampart.apache.org. Only Axis2 is going to move to a TLP and directly related sub projects will be under that as subprojects. > I agree that there are a lot of jiras and incomplete web sits. The reason > for this is lack of time committees getting to work on these project due to > various personal reasons. So I think this is a different issue which can not > be addressed by going for TLP. > > For an example both Ajith and Chinthaka were very active committers in this > project. But now they only participate in discussions. Can we expect any > change after going TLP? Lets say Deepal going to fix 50 issues after going > TLP, why he can not do it now? (Here I have nothing make personal I try to > explain what I want to say) True - As I have mentioned numerous times earlier there is not going to be any magic that solves our problems when Axis2 is moved to TLP. Instead we get a focused commiterbase and a PMC. When we attract committers we get to them to a more focused project. There is not going to be anything new happening with the current committers. instead we spare the confusion to all the newbies. > > >> >> > >> > Anyway, why I don't agree is I don't see a problem with the current >> > way. Even if there is a problem, I still don't see how things will be >> > better if we go to multiple TLPs. >> My concern is , Axis2 does not get what it is supposed to get. It is >> just stay inside something called WS. While some other Web service >> project acting as TLP. > > Well, are you saying that being a TLP a prestigious status? Of course this > is a personal thing and I am not thinking like that. If so that is a > different concern. There is a sense of independence and an expanded state of visibility in being a TLP. Why do you think the new projects graduating from incubator want to go TLP directly rather than hanging around as subprojects of an umbrella ? why is it that we see most of the donated projects (say hadoop and lucene from Yahoo or xmlbeans from BEA) becoming TLP's rather than settling down as subprojects ? IMHO the expanded visibility gives better opportunities to market themselves and also help them increase their focused commiterbase. > > > thanks, > Amila. >> -- Ajith Ranabahu Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking - Albert Einstein --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
