Ted Leung wrote:
1. Help any xml.apache.org project that wishes to become a top-level project to do so. Each-0, since it doesn't provide any 'safe harbor' for non-toplevel XML projects. Also, this would require (IIUC) loads of new people to be added as officers (http://www.apache.org/foundation/), and maybe some communities wouldn't warrant that (sizewise). AFAIK, Cocoon is the only project with the ambition of going toplevel.
top-level project will then have its own PMC which will report directly to the ASF board.
Let's face it: there are several smaller XML projects, which should be pampered somehow by a larger community. Pampering in terms of project setup assistance, legal guidance (and protection), etc... So there is a role for a common XML PMC.
Another scenario would be topleveling the larger projects, and move the smaller ones towards Jakarta. I'm not sure whether people would want that. OTOH, XML is everywhere now :-)
+1, increasing the possibility of 'being more present'. Sorry to say so, but even though my primary work area is XML-related, I happen to 'know' more PMC members on the Jakarta side, from posts and interventions on these mailing lists. I recall myself at least once sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which remained unanswered. Maybe, if more people share the burden of the xml.a.o PMC, questions will not remain unanswered anymore. Also, I think the common pages of xml.apache.org might need a slight 'contentual' revamp too: I transcoded them to the new xdocs format required by Forrest several months ago, Nicola pushed them live, but all this without much interventions nor questions by the xml.a.o PMC. So even though we now have a new website, it's still the same old content, and not much has happened on a general level inside xml.a.o2. Expand the xml.apache.org PMC so that every project has a representative
Revamping the community spirit on a general xml.a.o-level is something an expanded PMC might perhaps work on - and I know this isn't strictly required from a PMC. But since the birth of that new community-thing, since several other Apache projects have decided to go toplevel, I have been wondering what the goal and scope of xml.a.o are when all larger projects will eventually move away, and new code donations will arrive at incubator.a.o (still remains to be seen, however).
3. Alter the structure of xml.apache.org to have an "administrative" PMC that takes care of legal type
stuff, and a "technical" PMC that focuses more on techical issues and oversight.
I don't see how much that would change.
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