Sam Ruby wrote:

Merge or diverge. Having community boundaries distinct from PMC boundaries is not sustainable.
And what about Commons and Commons-Sandbox? One can imagine these as the refugee camps for smallish subprojects, without the 'community' to go toplevel.

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons/
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-commons-sandbox/

might contain a lot of subprojects which doesn't fit your criteria sizewise. Should these all be put back to incubator stage? Or do they share a common 'Commons' community?

I understand your point that a single PMC overlooking a lot of scattered projects doesn't scale. Still, I believe some of these smallish subprojects can share a common spirit, without sharing the developers community. Merging all of these will make them less visible to the outside world IMHO - meaning developers can meet, merge or exchange, but to prospective users it will all be one big sinkhole.

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