Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

Ok, then let's not even try then, who cares, oh and while we're at it let's remove the PMCs, why are they needed, oh and the board too, oh and why Apache at all... get real, try to be constructive. If nobody cares, tell me what we should do to solve the problem instead of institutionalizing it.
I see this and I also see you stating that there exist 'various levels of legal protection'. Maybe we should make those levels more explicit, for:

* contributors (patches)
* committers
* PMC - non-Members
* PMC - Members
* Members
* Directors (VPs et al.)
* Board

Gee - I assume many will be surprised seeing _that_ many categories existing within the Apache community. Also, given the fact committers might receive wide-ranging commmit rights within federations of non-topleveled projects (e.g. the future xml.a.o), I'm convinced there exists several superfluous levels or differences in this classification.

And I saw Sam already mentioning his inclination to be more liberal with this 'Member'-thing on some list/blog (don't know where anymore, information overload ;-)

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