Hi Lei,
Here are some links to the Table Browser help sections:
http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTables?command=start#Help
http://genome.ucsc.edu/goldenPath/help/hgTablesHelp.html

In particular, here is the link describing the intersection function:
http://genome.ucsc.edu/goldenPath/help/hgTablesHelp.html#Intersection

I can think of a few things that may be causing an intersection failure:

1) It is possible that no genes have yet been characterized that 
correspond to your peak data in the tracks you are intersecting against. 
This seems unlikely from your description, but it is possible that data 
was retracted from genbank (or whatever source was used) since the 
expression data was generated. It is also possible that the gene was 
unable to gain an alignment to genomic via BLAT for some reason or had a 
better alignment to a new location.

2) The intersection query parameters does not include the complete 
genomic for the target gene (UTR, intron, etc) so that a peak's 
coordinates miss the gene (some gene track's alignments represent coding 
regions only). There are options to adjust how much genomic is included 
for the comparison on the intersection form.

3) The intersection function only works for positional data (which is 
sounds like you are using). Perhaps the format has problems.

If you want to send me some examples from your BED file, I will 
duplicate your query and provide feedback. Maybe send two queries you 
consider "pass" and two "fail". Let's start with mm8 (not the liftOver 
version) so we can rule out that process as a variable.
Include for each:
1) Custom track header line(s)
2) Complete line from the BED file custom track input for a target gene
3) Expected "gene" that you thought would be identified via the 
intersection with this BED file line. Include the genomic coordinates as 
shown in the browser and name/accession.
4) Step-by-step what TB options you are using (everything, including the 
assembly version through to intersection options and output options)

You can just send the examples to me, not the entire list. I will not 
repost your exact data to the list either, only our general solution, if 
appropriate.

If you are able to figure this out on your own, just let me know.
Jennifer Jackson
UCSC Genome Bioinformatics Group

Lei Ying wrote:
> Hi, there:
> This is Lei. I have problem with "intersection" function in "table
> browser". 
> We have a custom track containing genome wide ChIP-Chip peak data in BED
> format (mm8) and we try to find out which genes those peaks intersect.
> Then we intersect our custom track with Knowgene table on Knowgene track
> (mm8) and we found some genes with peaks are missing in the gene list.
> The next thing we did is to liftover our BED format to mm9, and redo the
> intersection. These genes still cannot be recognized after intersection.
> We also tried to intersect our custom track with RefSeq table, and had
> the same problem. 
> Do we miss some tricks during the procesee? If you could provide us a
> detailed manual of how to use table browser, it will be a great help. 
> UCSC genome browser is something I cannot live without. THX for your
> work. It's really cool. 
> Look forward to your reply.
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Lei Ying, MD, Ph.D
> Postdoctoral Fellow
> Department of Hematology
> The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
> Philadelphia, PA, 19104
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