On Montag 24 August 2009, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
> szal...@szalkai.net schrieb:
> > Now that this exciting little flamewar has finished, and everybody is
> > friends again :), could you Duncan please give some examples of major
> >  breakage in KDE4?
>
> I'm not Duncan but I have 5 reasons not to switch to kde4 atm.
>
> 1) Speed: I have a AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4400+ with
> 8GB of ram and a Radeon HD 3600 card but still kde 4.3 most of the time
> feels like walking through mud.

turn of composite or install a xorg-server with the 
fedora_dont_backfill_bg_none.patch and see kde fly.

>
> 2) Crashes: kde 4.3 crashes way to often, sometimes it even brings X to
> its knees. Kde 3.5.10 is solid as a rock.

I had never seen a 'bring down X' crash. There have been some konqueror 
crashes in the past - but the same is true for 3.5. Compared with 3.2 or 3.4 
4.3 is a lot more stable (for me).

>
> 3) Screen-setup: I have to monitores connected to my pc static in xorg
> as two seperated displays :0.0 and :0.1. If I start kde <4.4-svn I have
> both screens on my main monitor and the second is just as good as dead.
> There is a patch for this in svn (or is it git now?) and as much as I
> can say by testing a few live-builds this point will be gone by next
> release.

ok, sounds like a genuine stupid bug. Can't even fixed with krandrtray?

>
> 4) Design: I have a very small design with two small bars at the bottom
> and on the right side. I can't create a design in kde4.x so far that
> consumes as few space on my monitor as i have it in kde 3.

but you know that you can make the plasma bar very small - and add a couple of 
them to the desktop?

>
> The fifth point on my list is that many of the functions and (3rd party)
> kde programms I use day by day aren't there yet at all or only with lack
> of functions and mostly in late alpha-state: k3b, amarok, kdevelop,
> kvirc to just name a few.

I haven't found anything missing in k3b or amarok - and I don't use kdevelop 
or kvirc. What are you missing from k3b?


> The last reason I stick with kde 3.5.10 for a while is that working with
> kde 4.x just doesn't feel right. Switching to kde4 is like switching to
> a completly different DE. KDE 4 isn't kde anymore, it is something
> absolutly different that calls itself kde.

people said the same when going from 1.1 to 2.0 and 2.2 to 3.0....

The only two things that I really disliked about kde 4.X is the new 
'systemsettings' - I liked kcontrol. Very much. And akonadi creeping into 
everything.

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