On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Marc Joliet <mar...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> On Montag, 17. April 2017 03:17:21 CEST Duncan wrote:
> > Martin Vaeth posted on Sun, 16 Apr 2017 18:01:00 +0000 as excerpted:
> > > Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >> If you're not using radeon/amdgpu, you can probably disable it with
> > >> little consequence.
> > >
> > > Googleearth on intel's graphics card becomes unusable slow if mesa is
> > > compiled without llvm.
> >
> > Thanks.  I wasn't aware Intel graphics used llvm too.  Now I am. =:^)
>
> I'm not sure, but even if they didn't, AFAIK mesa uses LLVM to speed up
CPU
> rendering, so you would probably want it regardless (my understanding is:
in
> any case where a driver doesn't implement a particular OpenGL function, a
> software implementation can be used instead, and that can be accelerated/
> optimised by LLVM).
>
> > Does anyone know about nVidia graphics, both servantware and
freedomware?
> > I'm guessing the servantware doesn't use it, but the freedomware very
> > well could, if both Intel and AMD are doing so.
>
> I would be surprised if the nouveau driver didn't use LLVM, too, but I
don't
> know for sure.  No idea about nvidia.
>
> > And while we're on the topic, last I knew nVidia had no plans to do
> > wayland with their servantware at all.  Any hints of that changing?
>
> No idea, sorry (also, I don't care ;-) ).
>
> Greetings
> --
> Marc Joliet

Just a follow-up.

I got rid of llvm on my Gentoo nvidia machine and so far see no ill
effects. Granted, I'm using an i7 980 Extreme, 24GB with an nvidia
960-based card, so it's pretty good hardware but I've seen no ill effects
so far.

Additionally, with Google releasing Google Earth as a web app at least
inside of Chrome it runs fine. Pan/zoom/tilt 3D views of the world. Lots of
fun and if it was faster with llvm I don't think I'd notice it.

As for my wife's laptop which started this discussion I had an emerge 2
weeks ago of about 200 packages, mostly KDE, which took almost 24 hours to
build on a 5-6 year old laptop.This time around I have about 175 packages
today. We'll see how long it takes as a data point but I've decided to move
her to Ubuntu. I think I need to be spending my time more productively than
building this much code this often. I already run Ubuntu as a VM on my
Gentoo machine due to apps not supported (or not building correctly) by
Gentoo in portage. Sad as it will be the first non-Gentoo boot in my house
in about 15 years.

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