I wanted to note a few things about the following thread so far:

1) Oracle Support - I do have to agree with Oracle about not supporting
a dynamic distro such as gentoo, it's a lot of time and money wasted on
silly ventures trying to figure out what latest update broke it. If it
were just updates and very simple to spot a problem then why not get
with the race and support it or simply be left behind.

2) Stable Tree - This is a snapshot, a once a year thing where we will
take our current tree and deem it -stable. It will then go over testing
for the course of 3 months to try and break crack and punch every
possible hole we could think of with that tree. When it's all done we'll
release it as a corporate version. Might as well call it
gentoo-production or gentoo-stable, as you might see that advertising is
the game in the corporate world and a fancy title like gentoo-corporate
will grab some eyes.

3) Our Path to Gentoo-Stable - Gentoo currently has some milestones
setup to where we want to go and what we're doing to get there,
unfortunately -stable isn't on the list until after we can improve a
bunch of smaller areas that need to be attended to and if you haven't
quite figured it out, the rate of gentoo popularity and keeping the
portage tree up to date is no easy task. Personally I'm going to write
up a path so we can get the milestone for -stable going and hopefully we
can give a better date on when it'll be released.

4) Organization - I saw a lot of people saying how easy this way to
split a tree and just call it stable. Ask any company the process they
take just to put out one product, they have an entire division devoted
to that product and many months of labor included. The first thing we
have to do is choose a plan of execution to get this project done, and
then we'll move on until it's finished.

-Benjamin


On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 14:28, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> On Tuesday 11 November 2003 22:52, Spider wrote:
> > begin  quote
> > On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:24:14 +0100
> >
> > Yes, I understand and support this reasoning, but I also had to state
> > the issues here for others to know about, people who might not have had
> > to sit through two months of bickering to get to the point of drafting a
> > policydocument about what they feel about "open source" before even
> > considering to -try- a demo setup.
> >
> >
> > A bit of frustration for me, but okay. I know where that "it strategist"
> > get their free lunch from.
> >
> 
> I actually agree with you. Unfortunately I have to tell you that it is very 
> likely to happen soon. At the same time I wanted to say that there are people 
> working on it and thinking about it. Basically the point is that gentoo gets 
> more and more the characteristics of a bulk carrier, and less those of a 
> sleek sailing yacht.
> 
> Paul
> 
> ps. I also feel very sorry for those needing to work with "corporate pollicy" 
> although I actualy probably would do the same if I were in the position to 
> establish such a pollicy.

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