On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 23:50 +0200, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
> As far as I have read all these replies, I see nobody understood
> anything at all about existing moderators. These people have done a
> great job to the community and _NOBODY_ will push them around. If they
> do not want to bcome staff, they won't as simple as that.

Unfortunately, I'm just not feeling that.

If you have Global Moderators and Administrators that are not willing to
become staff, then why are you asking for this?  You do realize that
this means that there will be much more control placed on what goes on
in the forums.  Currently, the forums are treated almost as an
independent entity, much like the GWN.  If you decide you want to become
official members of the Gentoo project, then you get what comes with it,
both good and bad.

> Get in the situation that because of a new internal policy, 33% of the
> developers have to be kicked away let's just say (exemplum gratia)
> they do not play nor like basketball. As you see it's completely
> senseless. The same happens with the above.

A new internal policy that their peers decided to envoke.  We didn't
come up with this idea, the forum moderators did.

Remember that before you go pointing fingers at anyone.

> So please, stop taking it with people that have been there for years
> doing their job and simply consider innecesary to become official
> gentoo staff.

However, you have brought up a GLEP that some of us feel *would* make it
necessary for them to become staff.

> About mods should speak English, well, NOT International mods. There
> is simply no such need. What we need them is to keep things in order
> in international forums and give support to users in their own
> language. The quiz translation might be a point but, our point of view
> is that only admins and global mods should firstly take the quiz staff
> if they want.

I agree that forum-specific moderators should not be required to take
the quiz.  I also believe that any *global* forum staff *should* be
required to, native-English speaker or not.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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