-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dan Armak wrote: | On Thursday 20 October 2005 20:37, Donnie Berkholz wrote: | |>I'd prefer that people don't come to depend on metabuilds at all. | | OK, we can do this. | | |>See |>http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/xorg-x11/porting_to_modular_x_howto.txt. | | That file says there won't be any x11-related virtuals anymore. Are you sure | no package uses it in the sense of 'any X server' instead of 'any X client | libs+headers'?
I'm not aware of any. The only similar thing I'm aware of is a few incredibly broken packages that require Xvfb at build time. If there are packages that need to run any X server at build time, they're even more broken. | Firstly, as I said in my other replies, this would change the current meaning | of the X USE flag. The original meaning would stay without a flag. | | Today it means 'enable support for clienside X11'. You want to make it mean | 'install X11 server'. If I'm building a headless box without an X11 server, | but I do want to emerge KDE and run it over ssh -Y from another box, I need | two useflags to specify this. But even if we introduce a new USE flag | 'Xserver', on by default where X is on by default, and used as you describe | above, the problems I describe below will remain. Does it really mean that? How about all of the X USE flags in font ebuilds? They mean basically what I'm saying. | Secondly, there can be more than one X11 server (kdrive, etc). Depending on | xorg-server is bad. If anything, we should introduce a virtual/x11-server. | | Thirdly, it's a 'convenience dep': whether xorg-server is installed or not | won't affect the behavior of KDE in any way (given a working DISPLAY | setting). Right, the intent is to basically say "I'm part of the 90% of users who has X installed locally and wants things to just work." | Finally, it requires that extra change to (ideally) all X11 client apps. It's | not intuitive, and so easy to forget when writing new ebuilds. Yeah. |>We will still install some fonts, but not all, and I'll note that in the |>metabuilds text. | | Which ones? Selected how? I'm asking because I don't want to work too hard on | deciding which fonts KDE should depend on :-) Selected arbitrarily by the x11 team based on requirement, common use and prettiness factor. Probably font-misc-misc, font-bh-ttf, font-adobe-utopia-type1 and maybe some others that are brought to my attention. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDV+1NXVaO67S1rtsRAlmXAJ4zr0ZCvF29BZwmDv/n/iagMMkIpgCgyO2h lckxp/jpUG4FZxr0PQQAyjQ= =x7RY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
