On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 14:46 -0500, James Potts wrote:
> On 6/9/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 19:10 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> > > Markus Ullmann wrote:
> > > > Maybe that way we avoid any misunderstandings, nearly doubled posts and
> > > > repeating ourselves over and over again.
> > >
> > > The problem is that some questions and answers easily get lost in a 
> > > mailing
> > > list. To solve this shortcoming, I am starting to make a FAQ page in the
> > > trac wiki:
> > > http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/sunrise/wiki/SunriseFaq
> > >
> > > We are adding new questions there, if you have some additions, please talk
> > > to me and I will add them for you.
> >
> > I have one...
> >
> > What will it take for this project to go away?
> >
> I have a counter-question to this:  What modifications to the sunrise
> (not sunrice, btw) project would have to be made to get you to stop
> actively trying to shut it down?  I really don't care if you think the
> team will be willing to make the changes, list them anyway, please. :)

It needs to not be a Gentoo project and not hosted on Gentoo
infrastructure, with absolutely no support from Gentoo.

I have absolutely no problem with overlays that are for a specific
target.  I would have no problems with either of the sunrise
"maintainers" starting their own overlays in projects they manage.  I
just can't imagine a dumping ground such as this being a good idea,
ever.  It would require an enormous amount of manpower.  How exactly can
2 people possibly cover the manpower needed for this when the *entire
developer pool* cannot handle it now in bugzilla?

> I'm asking because I think that this project is a Good Thing, if it
> gets handled correctly.  I also agree that if it is not handled
> correctly it can and will be a Very Bad Thing.

Unfortunately, I don't have much faith in this possibly being handled
correctly.  There simply isn't the manpower to do it properly *and*
officially.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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