On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:46:47AM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
> Bryan Østergaard napsal(a):
> > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:31:56PM +0000, Hubert Mercier wrote:
> >> What is more, even if Gentoo is always growing, why are people leaving ? 
> >> Personal reasons ? No, in fact I read carefully each of the retire mails 
> >> in the last year : very often people are just fed up with conflicts, 
> >> tired of people just slacking around, etc.. Are these last counted in 
> >> "growing dev base" ? IMHO, Gentoo need a large rethinking of its internal 
> >> structure, and, what is more, a rethinking of its recruitement process. 
> >> But I remember that this point has already been discussed ?
> >>
> > Please don't base your entire opinion on those very few retirement
> > announcements you've seen. Most devs that retire simply run out of time
> > for gentoo due to real life commitments etc. or move on to other open
> > source projects.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Bryan Østergaard
> 
> OK, let me get this straight... You are suggesting here that we are not
> losing enough developers for devrel/userrel to be bothered enough to
> start caring about WTH is going wrong here?
Not at all. But don't bother to read what I actually said. I'm sure that
would be way too much effort on your part.
> 
> Sure, after Flameeyes left we have pam + alsa pretty much unmaintained,
> we've lost a key KDE + sound apps developer + BSD lead; next we've lost
> metalgod who was a member of already pretty understaffed Gnome herd, one
> of 3 members of media-optical herd and sounds apps maintainer as well.
> Then a developer and founder of this distribution who rejoined just
> about a week ago ran away, scared when seeing the state of things.
> That's just for the past month.
> 
> And you come here to tell us that people shouldn't get confused by these
> 'very few' retirements, that the sun in still shining nicely and we are
> recruiting people as always? And that you will continue silently
> watching the trolls team associated around mips and ciaranm call people
> fuckheads, idiots and making a gutter of something that's supposed to be
> a development mailing list?
Never said anything like that.
> 
> Ugh... well done.
And you grabbed the chance to completely distort what I'm saying once
again. Well done indeed.

Regards,
Bryan Østergaard
-- 
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Reply via email to