On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:46:47AM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: > Bryan Østergaard napsal(a): > > On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:31:56PM +0000, Hubert Mercier wrote: > >> What is more, even if Gentoo is always growing, why are people leaving ? > >> Personal reasons ? No, in fact I read carefully each of the retire mails > >> in the last year : very often people are just fed up with conflicts, > >> tired of people just slacking around, etc.. Are these last counted in > >> "growing dev base" ? IMHO, Gentoo need a large rethinking of its internal > >> structure, and, what is more, a rethinking of its recruitement process. > >> But I remember that this point has already been discussed ? > >> > > Please don't base your entire opinion on those very few retirement > > announcements you've seen. Most devs that retire simply run out of time > > for gentoo due to real life commitments etc. or move on to other open > > source projects. > > > > Regards, > > Bryan Østergaard > > OK, let me get this straight... You are suggesting here that we are not > losing enough developers for devrel/userrel to be bothered enough to > start caring about WTH is going wrong here? Not at all. But don't bother to read what I actually said. I'm sure that would be way too much effort on your part. > > Sure, after Flameeyes left we have pam + alsa pretty much unmaintained, > we've lost a key KDE + sound apps developer + BSD lead; next we've lost > metalgod who was a member of already pretty understaffed Gnome herd, one > of 3 members of media-optical herd and sounds apps maintainer as well. > Then a developer and founder of this distribution who rejoined just > about a week ago ran away, scared when seeing the state of things. > That's just for the past month. > > And you come here to tell us that people shouldn't get confused by these > 'very few' retirements, that the sun in still shining nicely and we are > recruiting people as always? And that you will continue silently > watching the trolls team associated around mips and ciaranm call people > fuckheads, idiots and making a gutter of something that's supposed to be > a development mailing list? Never said anything like that. > > Ugh... well done. And you grabbed the chance to completely distort what I'm saying once again. Well done indeed.
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