Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
That's just it. Portage needs to deliver major visible improvements at
the user level for Gentoo to get anywhere. Managing a Gentoo system is
much harder now than it was a few years ago, but the tools are largely
the same.
What on earth is going to be a "major visible improvement" to a command
line based package manager that any average Gentoo user is going to
realise? The average user probably only uses a few commands: emerge
-u/p/a/v/--sync/package/world/system and then use
package.keywords/mask/unmask so there are really no fundamental
differences that the average user will notice
And that really means that portage is no easier/harder than it was 3
years ago when USE="~x86" emerge foo was consigned to the dustbin
* The wrong idea of what the user base is, and what the target user
base is. Gentoo's direction is too heavily influenced by a small
number of extremely noisy ricer forum users, many of whom don't
even run Gentoo. Unfortunately, this self-perpetuating clique
wields huge amounts of influence.
I was certain that Gentoo's direction was influenced by the people
working on Gentoo; not ricers. Do you have any examples of when the
ricers changed the direction of things in Gentoo.
Sunrise is the canonical example. Also consider the way the forums are
being run (like it or not, the forums are taken by many to be
representative of Gentoo's user base)...
It seems to most that the forums is the only part of Gentoo that is -
and always has been - running smoothly
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