Alec Warner wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> * Portage. > Portage is being incrementally improved. My understanding was that the portage team can't move forward with a new version until EAPI0 is done? > I also think either you are ignoring the changes or you are just unaware > of things that the portage team (aka Zac for the most part ;)) has been > working on. Many of these things are internal behind the scenes changes > and they don't require any user-level modification. Well having had to deal with emerge at a far more intimate level than I ever wanted to (she forced me, your honour ;) I've definitely seen the improvements. Especially once I started running it ~x86 to see the latest tested changes.
>> * Low QA expectations. > I can agree with parts of your statement. Particularly the expectations > are not set out anywhere (not even by the QA team). There are no > metrics, no data; it does not surprise me when QA is lax. Blimey. Metrics are *easy*- computers spit out stuff all the time. The harder part is filtering. What metrics are needed? <snip> I could have a counterargument and say that you refuse to accept what > the real problem is and instead blame the portage developers and the set > of developers with poor QA habits; aka I think this is a bad argument > because one would have to agree on the problems to acknowledge them. > ++antarus. > I think many people believe your involvement is a big problem and that > is unfortunate; however the fact that you seem to continue in the same > mannerisms without acknowledging that maybe you actually have negative > social impact here...I think that is a bit hypocritical. If projects > within Gentoo can make an attempt to evaluate themselves and their > affects on this mess; I think one person can do the same. > Look at the soul-searching seemant did on his blog; it really helped me after i came over all `emotional' recently. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list