On 13/05/07, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ulrich Mueller napsal(a):
> Maybe the following are also interesting in this context:
>
> Debian:
>    <http://womble.decadent.org.uk/blog/renaming-of-ion3>
>    <http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=69522>
> Archlinux:
>    <http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2007-April/004634.html>
>
> I wonder if a package should be kept whose author is threatening with
> "legal repercurssions" [sic].
>
> Ulrich

Please, drop this thing from the tree. It has clearly no future in
Gentoo anyway:

http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2007-April/004644.html

<snip>
> The only way to keep absolute control over the product as delivered to
> the user is to change the license and distribute Ion3 as binary-only.

I am going to do that. And, in fact, after final Ion3 is released, I'm
not going to write a line of so-called "free software"; so poor has
been the treatment of the FOSS herd (both of my code, and of the good
old *nix), that I'm not going to do them any services any more.
</snip>

This post provides a very good reasoning so I'll just link it:

http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2007-April/004653.html

P.S. And, please forget the 'but we only distribute ebuild, not the
package' line. The guy is seriously paranoid, annoying and crazy. Next
time he's apparently gonna claim that portage is a derivative work of
Ion3.

http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2007-April/004663.html
http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2007-April/004659.html

I'm not interested in his personal crusade against font handling on
Linux, nor are most of users. No place for such frenzy in Gentoo - not
worth the trouble, and noone should encourage such attitude, more
importantly.

<snip>
FOSS shit has been on a constant downward slide ever since I started
using it back in '95-'96, especially after all sorts of world domination
plans, like Gnome, were announced. Windows, OTOH, has improved, although
Vista has a small degradation again: you also can't easily disable the
blurry fonts completely, just like Linux that requires writing loads
of XML shit to do so. Maybe they've employed a few representative
specimens of the FOSS herd -- a bunch of teenagers wanking to buzzwords,
instead of pr0n. No wonder they can't tell a blurry font from a crisp
one.
</snip>

Once again, I don't want to use any software produced by such abusive
moron, and other people should do the same - or they should help them
themselves and compile the only original, trademarked Ion3 (C)(TM)
manually.

*annoyed*


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As others have said, drop ion3 and related packages.

This sort of abuse from up stream should not be tolerated. We are at the
service of our users _not_ upstream.

Bending over backwards to meet the demands of an upstream author can almost
never be in the interest of the users. It takes up far too much time and in
the end if we were to comply with the demands of Tumo I have no doubt that
we would be supplying the users with a product which is inferior to the
"gentooified" version.

Meeting Tumo's demands isn't in the interest of our users. Where a conflict
like this exists the path of least confusion and disruption should be taken.
Drop the package and suggest to users missing it that they either go to it
direct, email Tumo or find an alternative WM, of the hundreds out there and
the scores  within Gentoo, I'm sure the discerning user could find something
to suit there needs.

At the end of the day, this isn't "Gnome", "XFCE" or any other package we
serve out with a huge user base where adjusting to suit upstream may be the
better option. Its ion3. Tumo has gotten too big for his boots and its high
time Gentoo put its foot down.

Just my 0.02 chf

-Rob

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