Kent Fredric schrieb: ...
So you are saying that the person is not the problem but the problem is the problem.
The person has personally attacked me after i simply concluded that he should maybe change his attitude to make a better impression on gentoo-dev and Gentoo developers. This guy is trolling for years and he enjoys and knows it all too well. The gentoo-dev mailing list can be transformed to a technical mailing list again with setting up a gentoo-whatever mailing list where people like him can be the king with the crown and "be right" about their stuff.
This is what this thread is all about. Giving someone a place where he can do what he can do best: being complicated. Not the issues or problems are complicated. The people are. Why not discuss this?
However, i will let him be right forever and ever there as long as he leaves me and my Inbox alone.
I didn't address him personally when i said that people actually do NOT read "criticism" on the -dev list, which in his case always boils down to some kind of demanding but in fact simply error-prone and miscommunicating flame war accelerant and that it was a good idea to offload that stuff to a separate list. What a stupid prick. All he had to do is aggravate. And he still does.
He can be "right" there on his little castle mailing list all the way he wants where he wants how he wants but i don't want to be included in this or informed about him being right or being whatever he likes. I simply refuse to take part in his trolling for the rest of his presence on this list. I cannot unsubscribe because Gentoo devs are supposed to communicate with people in here. So either offload him or he will be the constant provider of unrest and stress (as now for me).
As far as i understand it, the gentoo-dev mailing list is not a place for people starting flamewars or discussing things they are "right" about. It is a technical discussion list. I don't understand why this priority is not enforced. This is also the reason i am allowed to write this email here. I am allowed to reply to congestive and unproductive bullshit on the gentoo-dev list. Because even when the -dev policy is enforced some devs start claiming we are suppressing freedom of voice and information- and the negative and useless trolling continues for no reason and positive effect.
I think that discussing problems & issues without discussing the damage done by the negative influence of certain people is always possible as long as the person is not the problem or offers cooperation and competent social skills. But in this case my problem is this specific person, and it cannot be solved by turning it into an "issue" how to deal with persons in general. Nobody behaves like that and gets no sanctioning or punishment. In fact his behaviour is an all-time precedence case for somebody coming into a community, threatening and treating people very bad and getting protected by common netiquette, only the other way around. He already became this case when he left Gentoo and since then started riding one dead horse after another.
He personally attacked others for a long time. He got attacked and he started campaigns like a hero fighting ancient dragons. Well, actually he's more like Don Quichote. He is always right but he is only one and the people who are always "wrong" is unfortunately always the majority. He enjoys standing in the spotlight. He lives from the fame he gets for making people upset, self-conscious and worried about the outcome of some of the more heated discussions. Working at Gentoo is fun as long as this person keeps out of the way of developers trying to volunteer for a great project. It's just a blessing to have a week without a flamewar started by him. Perhaps we should sponsor him a vacation on an island without access to public IP networks.
There are others like him and there will be others after him. There were even people doing that before him. Even this email is troll feeding because he will have witty conclusive dogmatism and ironic remarks he can spit back at me now. Feeding, feeding, feeding.
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