On Monday 14 January 2008, likewhoa wrote:
> On Jan 15, 2008 12:16 AM, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 22:53 +0000, likewhoa wrote:
> > > Which livecd(s) do they prefer?
> > >
> > > > Gentoo livecd-2007.0
> > > > Sabayon livecd
> > > > Sysresccd
> > > > Knoppix
> > > > My own
> > > > Other
> >
> > Be sure to list the Minimal CD and the Universal CD, as well as the
> > LiveCD, and also list the LiveDVD.  We'll have to relate this data to
> > the architecture used when we try to make anything useful out of it, but
> > it'll be more accurate, as I definitely want to know *which* Gentoo
> > media people are using.  I would also add something like "an older
> > Gentoo CD" to the mix.
> >
> > > Do you think commercial packages should be part of the main tree?
> > >
> > > > Yes
> > > > No
> > > > Why not
> > > > Never!
> > > > in unofficial overlay
> > > > Dunno
> >
> > Is this something that we really even want to ask?  I mean, if we're all
> > about trying to provide the best user experience, then binary packages
> > are almost a requirement, especially with binary packages that were
> > originally targeted at specific binary distributions.  I tend to see
> > this as one of those "religious" issues that is best left alone, like
> > emacs versus vi.
>
> Yea commercial packages should maybe be part of overlays.gentoo.org so
> that the tree can stay clean from these types of packages. But I agree
> if it's decided not to included in the user survey.

i dont see any basis for "keeping the tree clean" other than personal 
opinions.  if you dont want "these types of packages", then dont emerge them.  
there are people who want them, there are people who need them, there are 
people who hate them, whatever.  the package manager is the tool for the end 
user to decide what to do with their system.  anything else is not the way to 
go.  to borrow a few flavor words from Chris, here in Gentoo land we empower 
the users, we do not force some arbitrary religious thinking on them.  we are 
not the FSF.  if a user does not agree with this, then they're certainly free 
to choose another distribution, and we'll wish them the best of luck (the FSF 
does have a list of "recommended" distributions -- Gentoo of course does not 
appear on that list because our mind set does not match theirs).
-mike

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