Thomas Sachau wrote:
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I disagree in this place. ~arch is called testing because it actually is about
TESTING new versions
and packages. You should expect problems and you should be able to recover from
them and you should
be able to use bugzilla. Else i suggest you move to a stable arch instead.
Your arguments could make sense, if it would be about the stable tree, but
forcing the testing tree
to be a second stable tree, just with newer package versions isnt our goal nor
does it help anyone.
1. Much of the time on Gentoo using of ~ packages is not user explicit
choice but forced compromise.
I don't remember exactly anymore what prompted me to enter openrc in
package.keywords, but I surely remember having a few headaches with it.
Same is with many other packages- many times using ~arch is the only
answer, so 99% of the time it is used for getting some package to work
and not for pure testing.
Having in mind state of the matter in_real_world, I really don't think
that having such things at least temporarily masked ( not to mention
DOCUMENTED!) is really not overdoing it.
2. About using bugzilla- how the heck was I supposed to use it without
net access ?
3. My main if not only argument was about at last documenting such changes.
As it was done, it presented me with nasty surprise. Machine has gotten
through upgrade world just fine and only after reboot it couldn't start
network interfaces. Manual restart croaked with some error about python
not being able to find some function.
It felt exactly like a few last times when my ext4 decided to lose a few
hundred essential system files. There was nothing to suggest openrc.
After I lost some time reemerging system files and sifting through
ebuilds, packages and scripts, that casual message here about new openrc
hit me purely by chance, otherwise I would be in for much more pain.
After I got system running again, I couldn't find anywhere anything at
all about any substantial change in openrc.
Not on bugzilla, not on openrc home page nor anywhere else.
4. About filing bugzilla bug, I can't do it now, since I am in a hurry
and without it I can't contribute any really useful data.
Will do when I get around to it...
