El dom, 18-03-2012 a las 18:01 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió:
> El vie, 09-03-2012 a las 21:21 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió:
> > El vie, 09-03-2012 a las 21:15 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió:
> > > El vie, 09-03-2012 a las 22:02 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribió:
> > > > On 03/09/2012 09:48 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > > > > El vie, 09-03-2012 a las 16:57 +0100, Michał Górny escribió:
> > > > >> On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:02:23 +0100
> > > > >> Pacho Ramos<pa...@gentoo.org>  wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> El dom, 04-03-2012 a las 13:56 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió:
> > > > >>>> El dom, 04-03-2012 a las 13:51 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió:
> > > > >>>>> El dom, 04-03-2012 a las 13:47 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió:
> > > > >>>>>> Even if they have some people in their mail aliases, looks like
> > > > >>>>>> herds are empty. If nobody volunteers to join to them, I think
> > > > >>>>>> we should drop that herds and move their packages to
> > > > >>>>>> maintainer-needed in a week or so.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> What do you think?
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> The same applies to "sgml" now that cryos is retiring :(
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> and text-markup, I think it's the last empty herd now
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Maybe we could do the same as did in the past for openoffice herd:
> > > > >>> - Change metadatas and bugs to assign them to maintainer-needed (and
> > > > >>> reflect reality)
> > > > >>> - Keep herd in metadatas and CCed them to bug reports
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The other option would be to simply drop that herds, assign packages
> > > > >>> to maintainer-needed and wait developers to grab whatever they want
> > > > >>
> > > > >> For net-zope, I'd prefer dropping it. We decided to get rid of Zope,
> > > > >> removed almost all relevant packages, so there's no point in keeping
> > > > >> the herd.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > OK but, what about the rest? ;)
> > > > 
> > > > Please leave at least media-optical@ be as it is. Changing it doesn't 
> > > > make any sense.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Well, the idea would be to get their bugs assigned to maintainer-needed
> > > and media-optical CCed if somebody wants to take that stuff someday, it
> > > would reflect better reality as, currently, their bugs are being
> > > assigned to an empty herd (yes, xarthisius (I think he was in alias but
> > > not officially in herd last time I checked, anyway it's only one
> > > example, nothing personal against him of course :)). What will occur
> > > when he simply drops his mail from alias as he never wanted to be a
> > > member of that herd? What would occur if he only wants to maintain some
> > > packages but others are getting ignored?
> > > 
> > > The idea to get them moved to "orphan" is to reflect reality and, that
> > > way, try to get developers (or users willing to proxy maintain them)
> > > involved on exact apps they really want to keep maintained.
> > 
> > As talked just now with Samuli, he added him to media-optical (both, to
> > alias and herds.xml) and then, this no longer applies to media-optical
> > obviously ;)
> > 
> 
> Will then do the following:
> - Add a <maintainer> tag to their metadatas to get bugs assigned to
> maintainer-needed
> - Keep herd to get it CCed (like was done some weeks ago with openoffice
> herd)
> 
> This applies to "sgml" and "text-markup" since media-optical is active
> again and looks like net-zope packages will go away soon
> 

Finally, only sgml is inside this case as it contains a lot of packages:
app-doc/halibut
app-emacs/nxml-mode
app-emacs/psgml
app-office/passepartout
app-text/asciidoc
app-text/build-docbook-catalog
app-text/docbook-dsssl-stylesheets
app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd
app-text/docbook-sgml-utils
app-text/docbook-sgml
app-text/docbook-xml-dtd
app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd
app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets
app-text/docbook2X
app-text/gentoo-guide-xml-dtd
app-text/gnome-doc-utils
app-text/grutatxt
app-text/highlight
app-text/html-xml-utils
app-text/html2text
app-text/html401
app-text/htmlrecode
app-text/htmltidy
app-text/linuxdoc-tools
app-text/openjade
app-text/opensp
app-text/robodoc
app-text/sablotron
app-text/scrollkeeper-dtd
app-text/scrollkeeper
app-text/sgml-common
app-text/sgmltools-lite
app-text/sgrep
app-text/txt2tags
app-text/webgen
app-text/xhtml1
app-text/xml2
app-text/xml2doc
app-text/xmlformat
app-text/xmlstarlet
app-text/xmlto
dev-ruby/xml-simple
www-client/htmlview

Is anyone willing to join the herd? If not, maybe somebody could take a
few packages if they want to take care of only a set of them and not all
the beast :-/

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