Fabio Erculiani posted on Thu, 10 May 2012 22:48:29 +0200 as excerpted: > On a side note, I find it quite odd to be accused of trash talking by > Linux Kernel people.
hwoarang is a kernel person? If you note, gregkh didn't post that. I can't agree with udev/systemd integration, but it's worth noting that gregkh has for the most part stayed out of that debate, and simply stated where he sees udev going, as an upstream person who thus speaks with authority on the subject. It may very well be that a fork is thus required. I guess we wait and see. But I don't see the kde folks being willingly subsumed into a gnomeos black hole, and time and again, floss history has demonstrated that when there's an immediate need, forks do occur. Both gnome and kde have their forks in recent history, xorg is a fork, there's the glibc and gcc history, etc. If integration gets too close, a fork /will/ happen. But that history is available to everyone and the wise will take heed. Meanwhile, for the moment at least, upstream udev and systemd have both taken pains to state that while they're going to ship in a unified tarball, at least for now, udev will remain buildable on its own, SPECIFICALLY to support folks not ready to go systemd just yet. So there's still hope. And 3-5 years is an eternity in an ecosystem such as the FLOSS world, evolving at the speed of the net! Looking back from there, it's quite possible this debate will look petty and short-sighted, regardless of how things ultimately turn out. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
