On 12/02/2012 04:40 AM, Duncan wrote: > > As others have mentioned, equery u[ses] openldap . >
Does nothing in this case. > Actually, I have a bug open at this very moment about a new ambiguous USE > flag, USE=fma, in the new sci-libs/fftw-3.3.3 ebuild. My bdver1 has > fma4, but not fma3. Does it apply? I checked the flag description, no > help. I checked the ebuild, it just use_enables fma. On the bug, I've > actually tested and found it works for my fma4 hardware, and I've posted > on the amd64 list asking someone with fma3 (probably an amd trinity apu > machine, at this point) to test it as well. > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=445053 > > Hopefully we'll get a description that unambiguously states that it works > for both fma3 and fma4 out of that bug; either that or the flag will > change to presumably fma4, if it only works for fma4 (which I've tested) > and not fma3. > > Now obviously I don't expect most users to go to /that/ level. I'd > expect most users to simply leave the flag disabled if they're unsure. > But I WOULD expect most users to SEE the new flag, and investigate at > least far enough to see that they can simply leave it off if they don't > know whether their system has fma or not. The result might be a bit > slower, but it'll work, whereas if they don't have the hardware and turn > it on, things might not work. I think you have Stockholm syndrome. I've updated thousands of packages this month. I cannot do this for each one, and even if I could, there's a huge (unnecessary) opportunity cost to doing so. At the very least, my company has to pay my salary. If I were to spend a week reading the ebuilds for every update I do, that would also waste thousands of dollars of their money. I don't buy the false dichotomy that I should leave Gentoo rather than trust things not to break without warning. > Gentoo isn't for everyone, nor can it be and still be what we know as gentoo. This is really what I have a problem with, the openldap issue aside. There seems to be a vocal minority of hipsters who want Gentoo to remain "hard" so that they can use it ironically. The silent majority just want as many things to work as possible with as little effort as possible. This attitude not only gives Gentoo a bad reputation (see, for example, any distro thread on r/linux), but makes it hard to retain new users and contributors. Whenever something stupid breaks for no reason, there's always someone there to say "maybe Gentoo isn't for you." And some of those people leave. There isn't anything inherently difficult about Gentoo. Bad decisions by humans are what can make it hard to use[1], not anything fundamental to its nature. And the Gentoo that you know and love isn't going "soft" if it warns people that their LDAP servers might go away. [1] Please, no one take this as criticism. Things are in general wonderful.
