-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/2013 12:05 PM, Duncan wrote: > Ben de Groot posted on Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:47:58 +0800 as excerpted: > >> On 19 January 2013 18:26, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:26 AM, Ben de Groot <yng...@gentoo.org> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> People who do have printers can always enable [USE=cups] themselves. >>>> >>> Unless we plan on adding yet another profile for "normal" users I think >>> this is really pushing it. >> >>> Yes, I'm sure some people don't own printers. However, that figure has >>> to be fairly low. >> >> I'm not so sure about that. The majority of my friends and colleagues >> don't own a printer. When we do need to print something, it would be for >> work, so we have it printed at work. > > I recently heard someone /else/ recommend no printer, pointing out that > it was an additional expense without a lot of practical benefit for many, > since ink is expensive, the cheap printers are fiddly and often break, > and if you /really/ want something printed, it's easy enough to load it > on a thumb-drive and take it to kinkos or the library (or as Ben > suggests, work). > > I had come to that conclusion for myself some time ago and haven't had a > printer in years... I won't do inkjet and I always seem to have something > better to do with the money that'd buy a decent laser. But it was still > rather surprising to me, as like Rich, I'm from the generation where it > was just assumed that if you had a computer, you had, and needed, a > printer. So to hear (it was a meatspace conversation, with "average > folks", not geeks) someone ELSE say "take it to kinko's if you want to > print something" was /indeed/ quite surprising/enlightening.
Removing cups from the default profile and putting it in the desktop profile makes sense. I don't print from everything, but I often print from things using the desktop profile. If a user really doesn't want cups they can always adjust their make.conf. Let's not bikeshed on this forever, we are only setting a sane default not removing the user's choice. Honestly it can be as simple as "cups is default now and removing that will break a lot of desktop users". So again, I vote for moving it to the desktop profile, but not for removing it altogether as that would break a lot of users. - -Zero > > So yes, I suppose it really is a generational/cultural thing. "The > tablet generation" and "the smartphone generation" are rather more likely > to find the idea of simply assuming that everyone with a computer/tablet/ > smartphone also has a bulky/balky printer... rather quaint. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQ+tX4AAoJEKXdFCfdEflKTFYP/AtPX4K6KKNlt1vaNUBSdDAr bsINnACEGJC5WljLX9FNgiVBH3yyTPiMJJoCZf494Rl4q1QhUypSg7twdkF9DVS5 1wYpCLeixQoe2LAjRApu5myCPDLMnSTdZIQy0tjsAsU2bO3HcJ++NJj633WMbjSY y54zaQeSTXXxOA+0XFXDEoF2H+icZuTBGsjZgpRlPMWcMglOmh1n9YLgeFT4Bmoz i+GgEB5TtvP9j+UNuuASPwiX3vJRSvaPbShiFGXMeGwiQPiKpam/ZH29EZst02Bv T8nDhWN4qsemCbWVc8ocgU2iA9andeYNkHsU4kB4MnEJUMZw9QwCcIEy6GYa6znv Y7ZBF1lr2Y4cZLXV8NCUChiyEIxLK/6F4kwFq3SnGOh1EEu7tZlWzE3pOjsQigQq kyadls0mlC0IA9mugnTrIJF7KRxzC2DTQhspPypEJc3p4i44/AKA3bHTzTviNwj7 NUIFMBp4zS5csCSVkAwWvCpmX1iX/5V0Xv0w9TKT99Vca2Zn54uB/scLLXOcqiNe jP5FknoDAhBy1iepM3H/5x6V+5YVnhB8wTGCRmXWfmVapQAu7/rQU66nYt0KumEM rR1dns7Qb4cW7VEPJ7E6MabFup6gk994Bd82WA78Sx0CFjfDMFah10l9dP2cbRi3 NCGKbT9JpnAOIsmOoLI1 =OBjr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
