On 02/17/2013 11:03 AM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote:
In the last time I'm helping some other arches (also arches which I have no
interest) because they appears understaffed.

Days ago, I tried to make a virtual machine with qemu, for SH since the dev-
machine[1] is a bit slow; well, I discovered we have no ISO[2] available and
there is no handbook[3] for it.

The same thing is for S390/S390X/M68K/. So how I am able to install one of
that _supported_ arches if there isn't any sort of guide?

An interesting fact is that we have an handbook for MIPS[4], a declared
unsupported architecture (does not make sense for me).
I am supporting mips for the Lemote loongson2f and for the Atheros AR7161. I'm trying to get my hands on a godson and Stuart will be sending me two fulongs, which you can add to that list. Don't let the fact that MIPS is a ~arch fool you. I don't think we should make it a fully supported arch because of the number of ISA's and ABI's and endiannesses (if such a word exists). It is impossible to test for all combos which is what stable should mean.

So don't even think of dropping MIPS! Just leave it ~arch and I'll give it love.

As far as the other arches go, I'm interested in: amd64, arm, mips, ppc, ppc64 and x86.


Another example is that we have no stable keyword on GCC/glibc for m68k and I
don't know if I need to use another compiler or another libc.

Checking on bugzilla I saw no report for some of those arches, so for me that
_partially_ means that probably there are very few users for those arches on
gentoo.

Now, imho, we have 2 choice:

1)Support them with an iso or at least a manual if we can't do an handbook

ISOs don't make sense on all hardware. Eg. I offer an netboot image for the lemotes.

2)Lose the stable keyword and don't waste manpower anymore.

I agree, but please keep at least the ones I mention above. Other devs may have different ideas.


What do you think about?

Ref:
[1]: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/dev-machines.xml
[2]: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml
[3]: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/#doc_chap2
[4]: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-
mips.xml?style=printable&full=1


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