On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Ben de Groot <yng...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 8 May 2013 23:39, Fabio Erculiani <lx...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Ben de Groot <yng...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>> On 1 May 2013 18:04, Fabio Erculiani <lx...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>> It looks like there is some consensus on the effort of making systemd
>>>> more accessible, while there are problems with submitting bugs about
>>>> new systemd units of the sort that maintainers just_dont_answer(tm).
>>>> In this case, I am just giving 3 weeks grace period for maintainers to
>>>> answer and then I usually go ahead adding units (I'm in systemd@ after
>>>> all).
>>>
>>> In my opinion you should not be asking maintainers to add systemd
>>> units to their packages. They most likely do not have systems on which
>>> they can test these, and very few users would need them anyway. I
>>
>>> would think it is better to add them to a separate systemd-units
>>> package.
>>
>> This sounds really wrong (tm) to me. It took me two weeks to kill that
>> silly systemd-units pkg.
>> All the distros around here do install systemd units with their
>> packages and I believe that the council has already spoken about this.
>
> It sounds more wrong to me to be asking normal package maintainers to
> test and maintain unit files, while they don't use systemd themselves,
> nor have it installed. Nor would most of our users need this.

Nobody is asking maintainers to test units. The systemd team is
responsible for them.

>
> And I believe the council has only spoken out against using a useflag
> for installing such files. Afaik they haven't spoken out against a
> systemd-units package. Please refer me to their decision if I'm wrong.

I was referring to that.
We never mentioned a possible systemd-units package in any council
meeting I believe.
I hardly believe that the systemd team would accept such choice.

>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Ben | yngwin
> Gentoo developer
> Gentoo Qt project lead, Gentoo Wiki admin
>



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Fabio Erculiani

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