On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 06:48:54AM +0000, Steven J. Long wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 09:31:08PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 09:47:05PM -0500, Wyatt Epp wrote: > > > But let's be real here: if I install something and > > > want to configure its system-wide bits, the first place I go is ALWAYS > > > /etc. When I don't find it there, with the rest of the system config > > > files, my day gets a little worse and I lose a bit of time trying to > > > interrogate a search engine for the answer. And that's annoying. > > > That sucks. > > > > This hasn't changed. > > The configuration files these packages are putting in /lib are not > > meant to be edited; they are the package provided defaults. If you want > > to override one of them, you do that in a file with the same path and > > name in /etc, like I mentioned in another message in this thread. > > The problem, as has been explained many many times, is that the rest > of the config is somewhere random on the system. But you knew that, > right? You were just telling a half-truth, effectively.
No sir, I was not telling a half-truth. If the default configuration is stored in /lib/udev/rules.d for example, and you can override that default by dropping files of the same name in /etc/udev/rules.d, I don't see what the concern is. > I for one prefer a distro to do a bit of work and make my life easier, > since it makes life easier for everyone who uses the distro. Why the > hell should I care if some bindist can't etc-update? WTF does that > have to do with Gentoo? With this method, you don't need to etc-update, so I would say that in a way this is easier. Your system-admin-provided files in /etc are not owned by the packages, just the files in /lib are. > If I wanted a shitty distro that didn't bother to do anything at > all, I'd use LFS. At least they don't pretend, then fall over themselves > to do a crap load of work rather than admit a mistake; that hey, y'know > what? Some of those things from 30 years ago were a damn good idea, > and maybe just maybe, they worked some of these issues out back then, > so we could stand on their shoulders instead of digging through > their garbage. I'm not totally against keeping things from the past. It is just a case of evaluating those things and seeing whether they are still relevant.
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