On 03/06/14 16:53, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Samuli Suominen <ssuomi...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> To prevent OpenRC users from installing this version because it's >> an old UPower with no pm-utils support, with no hibernate/suspend support, >> to ensure desktops don't end up with greyed out Hibernate/Suspend >> buttons > So, I get why you did it, but my concern is that when you tell portage > that non-systemd users shouldn't use this package, portage helpfully > solves that problem by turning all the non-systemd users into systemd > users, instead of switching them to the alternative that works without > systemd.
Portage doesn't do anything on it's own, surely it needs an admin to accept or reject the changes It seems we are seeing the severity of something like this diffently, to me, this belongs to normal Portage functionality, I see something like this from other packages constantly, I don't understand why this package has suddently been highlighted like this It just seems to me people are up in the arms again re: seeing word "systemd", when ironically all of this hassle was *for* OpenRC users, to ensure continuity for them in sys-power/upower-pm-utils where 0.9 git branch will continue to live If I hadn't stepped up and blocked the 0.99.0 keywording when it was originally about to happen, and then figured a migration path, and then stepped up with help from pacho2 and tomwij, and migrated the tree like this, we'd have everyone on 0.99.0 and no hibernate/suspend for anyone else except systemd users So, after all the effort we've put in and prepared the tree with OpenRC users specifically in mind, if people have to take one or two manual emerge commands themselfs, I'm totally fine with that, that's what Gentoo is all about, choices, and people who complain about it, really seem like ungrateful over anything else, and I'm disappointed. I keep expecting more from our users, the handholding has lately gone overboard I hope that didn't come out wrong, and it certainly wasn't a reply directly aimed at you, it was to the thread in general (I'm still with my original plan, when 0.99.0 goes stable, there will be multiple bulletin points to document, news item will be issued) - Samuli
