Tom Wijsman posted on Wed, 04 Jun 2014 02:24:31 +0200 as excerpted: > On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 07:55:50 +0800 Patrick Lauer <patr...@gentoo.org> > wrote: > >> The only step missing is: >> >> Mask the new version on all non-systemd profiles so that portage >> doesn't try to install it >> >> (I wonder why systemd and the related stuff isn't masked on non-systemd >> profiles anyway ...) > > There is no such thing as a non-systemd profile; a sub directory is a > specialization, that doesn't mean that it parents suddenly become the > opposite of that. No, the parents are just generalizations that aren't > as specific as the sub directory. > > Doing what you've suggested everywhere but in gnome/systemd and > kde/systemd is a recipe to upset everyone whom runs systemd on another > desktop environment than GNOME or KDE; so, that's not a way forward.
+1 Currently I'm default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib. I certainly don't want systemd masked as I switched to it a few months ago, but there's no no-multilib systemd profile for me to switch to. Not that I actually need one unless someone goes mad and starts masking packages without a good reason (like it doesn't work on that arch!) in general purpose profiles. Of course it wouldn't be a big deal for me anyway; given that I'm advanced enough to have no @system at all as I've negated the whole thing in /etc/portage/profile/packages, I'm sure I could unmask systemd if I needed to. But for other no-multilib systemd users, and for others using similar profiles, masking systemd in a general purpose profile is NOT the way to go. The alternatives are a combinatorial profile explosion (impractical), mix-ins, as TomWij suggests (medium-term solution, more likely long-term given gentoo politics, but we need short-term here), or status-quo, not masking packages that work just fine in general-purpose profiles. Which basically means news items noting the manual action necessary for things like this, as is now being done. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
