On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:44:45 +0800 Patrick Lauer <patr...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 06/04/2014 08:24 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 07:55:50 +0800 > > Patrick Lauer <patr...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > >> On 06/03/2014 07:25 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > >>> > >>> On 03/06/14 14:40, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >>>> Would have been nice to fix all the dependencies BEFORE marking > >>>> the systemd- depending "sys-power/upower-pm-utils" stable. -- > >>>> Joost > >>> > >>> No clue what you mean, sys-power/upower-pm-utils doesn't depend on > >>> sys-apps/systemd, > >>> and whole Portage tree is converted to proper dependencies and the > >>> conversion went in > >>> the correct steps. > >> > >> The only step missing is: > >> > >> Mask the new version on all non-systemd profiles so that portage > >> doesn't try to install it > >> > >> (I wonder why systemd and the related stuff isn't masked on > >> non-systemd profiles anyway ...) > > > > There is no such thing as a non-systemd profile; a sub directory is > > a specialization, that doesn't mean that it parents suddenly become > > the opposite of that. No, the parents are just generalizations that > > aren't as specific as the sub directory. > > Since systemd needs special profiles to be easy to use ... No, these systemd profiles are only introduced for GNOME and KDE ... > ... it'd be the boring and easy way to restrict it to those profiles > so that dependency changes don't cause this needless amount of work > for users, and this indecent amount of mail on this mailinglist ..., which means that your restriction doesn't hold ... > > Doing what you've suggested everywhere but in gnome/systemd and > > kde/systemd is a recipe to upset everyone whom runs systemd on > > another desktop environment than GNOME or KDE; so, that's not a way > > forward. > > I have no idea what you are trying to say, but there's a desktop > profile ...; because systemd users also use the desktop profiles ... > > Another option is to create no-systemd sub directories; but such > > profiles will be highly controversial, besides helping the > > exponential grow of the profiles directories as well as be a > > non-default profile. > > The "default" is already that, all I'm suggesting is masking systemd > there so that portage doesn't needlessly antagonize users ..., which makes your suggestion not an option. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
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