On Thursday 19 February 2015 10:07:30 Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 02/19/2015 09:57 AM, Markos Chandras wrote: > > On 02/19/15 06:10, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > What saddens me the most is that these pointless threads are > > becoming sort of a habit not because the reporter is really > > offended by the original action, but because he/she uses that to > > prove that QA is dying, Gentoo is a zombie, cvs sucks and > > elephants could fly. > > I'm not sure I agree the original thread was pointless. it was a > relatively succinct statement that reported a breach of procedure, for > which I'd consider the -dev list to be the appropriate place.
There's a pattern where a few people hit the big red button for any breach of protocol, which in itself is a breach of protocol. The only way to contain their behaviour is to assume that common sense doesn't exist and then add so many rules to every little action that no ambiguity exists, thus killing most actions in bureaucratic red tape. I don't see that path as a viable option, it'd be easier if such people got beaten with some common sense until they learned. > What is more relevant is how that is being followed up by others > afterwards. "Ok, I did a mistake, will remember to check maintainer > more closely before bumping a package that is new to me and I'm not > familiar enough with to know it is in Herd X" would be a perfectly > acceptable answer. > Trivial python package gets bumped. OMG TEH END OF TAH WORLD. Is that really a problem we should worry about? And do we need to be this territorial? "My" packages are pretty much "Do what you want", unless you are the sci herd and repeatedly breaking it for no apparent reason, in which case I must doubt your sanity ... but apart from that ... just do it. I'd appreciate it if we could get a more community thingy going (as Senor Hasufell always complains), which also would imply being less territorial lone wolf. The obvious self-contradictions are amusing! So anyway. We don't need more rules, we need less complaining, and more fixing. I still have over 500 open bugs, a lot of them simple "dependency missing" bugs, and maintainers usually try to sit those out. That's something worthy of a rant, not some random python package ... bumping of which didn't cause any bugs ... etc.etc.
