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On 12/08/15 11:08 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015, Alexis Ballier wrote:
> 
>> i.e. something that really tells the PM how to automate the
>> choice: - 'qt5 -> !qt4' is rather straightforward to solve and
>> tells the PM how (note that it is not equivalent to 'qt4 ->
>> !qt5') - '^^ ( qt5 qt4 )' requires the PM to make a choice in
>> order to automate it
> 
> I was thinking about some syntax like this:
> 
> REQUIRED_USE="|| ( +foo bar ) ^^ ( +qt5 -qt4 )"
> 
> The package manager would first evaluate each group in
> REQUIRED_USE with the original set of USE flags. If that doesn't
> evaluate to true, retry with flags changed as indicated by the +
> and - signs.
> 
> Ulrich
> 

Having the ability for REQUIRED_USE to provide a default resolution
path should definitely help with things; I assume this is meant to
do its work via --autounmask-write or similar, ie to help users
adjust their config files?  Or was the thought to allow PMs to
override USE immediately?

Questions:

1 - how does +foo in REQUIRED_USE relate to use-defaults set in IUSE?

2 - is there a particular reasoning for the - in front of qt4 here?
 I only ask because it would seem that a single default-enable
should suffice in lists like this to indicate a resolution path, no?
 That is, '^^ ( +flag1 -flag2 -flag3 -flag4 )' to me seems like it
would be the same as '^^ ( +flag1 flag2 flag3 flag4 )'

3 - will having REQUIRED_USE be able to force flags on (and others
off) likely result in abuse of profiles and other use defaults?  I
forsee this being a way, for instance, for a dev to get around users
setting USE="-*" in make.conf to ensure a default use flag setting
is honoured.

4 - Will a change to which flag the '+' is on likely to require a
revbump for VDB updates?  For something like '^^ ( +qt4 qt5 )' I
could see maintainers wanting to switch which flag is default across
a bunch of packages at once when, say, the qt team wants qt5 to
become the de-facto default.

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