On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:34:22 -0400 Mike Frysinger <vap...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> background: > everyone wants @system to be slim, but most people want the initial > stage tarball that we release and you install Gentoo from to not be > completely sparse. we've got a bug for this topic: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/393445 > > items to sort out: > - should the list of packages be in catalyst or profile-stacked > content -> imo it should be entirely in the profile fully agree > - should the packages list be in a new packages.default, or should we > create a new set to hold it, or should we just go with @profile ? > -> @profile has the advantage of already existing. we have to be > careful so as to make it difficult to uninstall packages that the > user does not actually want. > > - if the packages aren't in @profile, should they be seeded in > @world ? -> imo yes as we don't want all the default packages > getting depcleaned as soon as you start using the new install. if > they're in @profile, then this is a moot point (assuming depclean > does not clean out @profile). some kind of 'world' file in profiles like the 'packages' one that is just used to populate world file after (or just before) stage3 build ? not sure if sets provide the same flexibility: i can imagine iputils in that set, but also another embedded profile with busybox[make-symlinks], or the bsds > - should stage3 be @system only, or @system+@profile, or > @system+@profile+packages.default ? > -> this depends on the previous discussion a bit. today, stage3's > are @system, but imo @system+@profile is reasonable. see next > question too. > > - should we release stage4's instead of stage3's ? > -> if we keep stage3 as @system-only, then we'd build stage4's which > would add @profile/whatever > -> downside is that we've been training the world to download & > install stage3 for almost 15 years > -> imo as long as the default @profile is kept slim, adjusting the > definition of a stage3 is OK i also think it's better to adjust stage3 if it is kept relatively slim, but i'm pretty sure there'll be demand for @system only stages Alexis.
