On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 11:33:11PM +0100, Gerion Entrup wrote:
I'm a long term Gentoo user, but have read this list a few month only, so correct me, if I'm wrong. I've seen the main usage of this list in three aspects: 1. Review and discussion of new (technical) features (eclasses, EAPI, package manager specs). 2. Information about unmaintained packages. 3. Input and proposals from users.Splitting the list would reduce the meaning of gentoo-dev to the first point. The second point has to be handled on the expert list (or both lists), so proxy maintainers can reply. The third point can only be handled on the expert list, but core developers have to read it, otherwise the whole point would be meaningless. In other projects with similar problems but the technical possibility to moderate some "code of conduct" was adopted, so moderators can ban users on that base for a fixed amount of time. Gerion
I'm normally just a lurker in this list, so the changes are unlikely to affect me directly, but I think Gerion hits it on the head here. Is there such a stratification between "Gentoo Developers" (and those 'blessed' by such developers) and "Expert Gentoo Users" that justifies silo-ing the two groups off into their own mailing lists? If this distinction is present and vitally important, then by all means create a separate list, but is the reduction in traffic really worth the loss of input from your long-term, but "non developer" users? If this is really a moderation issue, surely the bad actors will simply move their alleged trolling to the -experts list, which will cause the core developers to cease reading it, leading to a breakdown in the user to developer discussions that currently take place via -dev? -- Richard
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