On 10/01/18 19:31, Alec Warner wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org > <mailto:mgo...@gentoo.org>> wrote: > > W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 09∶11 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner > napisał: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org > <mailto:mgo...@gentoo.org>> wrote: > > > W dniu wto, 09.01.2018 o godzinie 17∶08 -0800, użytkownik Matt > Turner > > > napisał: > > > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:20 PM, Andreas K. Huettel > <dilfri...@gentoo.org <mailto:dilfri...@gentoo.org>> wrote: > > > > > During the last Gentoo council meeting, the decision was > made to implement > > > > > changes to the gentoo-dev mailing list [1]. > > > > > > > > > > These changes affect only the gentoo-dev mailing list, and > will come into > > > > > effect on 23 January 2018. > > > > > > > > > > * Subscribing to the list and receiving list mail remains > as it is now. > > > > > * Posting to the list will only be possible to Gentoo > developers and > > > > > whitelisted additional participants. > > > > > * Whitelisting requires that one developer vouches for > you. We intend this > > > > > to be as unbureaucratic as possible. > > > > > * Obviously, repeated off-topic posting as well as > behaviour against the > > > > > Code of Conduct [2] will lead to revocation of the > posting permission. > > > > > > > > > > If, as a non-developer, you want to participate in a > discussion on > > > > > gentoo-dev, > > > > > - either reply directly to the author of a list mail and > ask him/her to > > > > > forward your message, > > > > > - or ask any Gentoo developer of your choice to get you > whitelisted. > > > > > > > > > > If, as a developer, you want to have someone whitelisted, > please comment on > > > > > bug 644070 [3]. Similar to Bugzilla editbugs permission, > if you are vouching > > > > > for a contributor you are expected to keep an eye on their > activity. > > > > > > > > It seems like the obvious way this fails is some Gentoo > developer acks > > > > one of the problem people. I don't think that's particularly > unlikely. > > > > Then what do we do? > > > > > > > > > > Then it becomes comrel business. > > > > If that was an effective solution, wouldn't the problem already > be solved? > > One of the problems mentioned before was that a person could easily > evade the ban via subscribing from another e-mail address. In this > case > it's no longer possible, as he would need to obtain the vouching > for his > new e-mail address, and for that he would first have to have something > positive to post. > > Of course this relies on developers not vouching for new people out of > the blue but expecting them to have something to contribute first. > > > This sounds like an amazing fundraising opportunity. > > https://www.gentoo.org/donate/ > > Get membership posting privs. > > -A > > > > -- > Best regards, > Michał Górny > > > Do I read a hint of sarcasm there too Alec?! :]
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