On 10/01/18 13:49, kuzetsa wrote: > On 01/10/2018 05:57 AM, David Seifert wrote: >> On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 08:55 +0100, Lars Wendler wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:48:56 +0300 Eray Aslan wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 10:20:56PM +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: >>>>> * Posting to the list will only be possible to Gentoo developers >>>>> and >>>>> whitelisted additional participants. >>>> This is so contrary to what I and I thought Gentoo stands for: >>>> openness, transparency, inclusiveness even when these require a >>>> rather >>>> thick skin and result in high noise. It's a price worth paying. >>>> >>>> I guess I should a) pay more attention to council elections b) >>>> consider >>>> the idea that the whole council thing as it stands now is just not >>>> working. >>>> >>> Wow. I couldn't have said it better. >>> Seems we're turning into an elitist club or something... >>> I wonder how many users we're going to loose on this one. Well done >>> council :-( >>> >> If your only reason to use Gentoo is because you can post to the main >> developer ML, and not because we try to provide a great distribution >> with lots of choice, a current toolchain and lots of customization, >> then you're likely using the wrong distribution. >> > If development of a quality distribution which meets > these goals requires thick skin, something is broken: > > I've never seen anything from the gentoo foundation > which suggests that the gentoo developer mail list > should be considered a safe space for disparaging > remarks. Think of the messaging on this - for every > 1 or 2 people who are willing to come forward to > address these concerns, there are likely "not zero" > who didn't want to deal with confrontation and the > risk that rudeness and hostile behavior would be > defended. > Your argument seems partially contradictory here, and I think the interpretation may be muddled with language barriers for those developers/users with English as a foreign language ...
Are you reinforcing the point [widely accepted by many whose heads aren't in the proverbial sand[0]] that Gentoo is [or is becoming] an elitist club, or condoning "bad behaviour" by both devs and non-devs on the mailing lists.... Your final point, however, makes a lot of sense .. [1] [0] - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/head-in-the-sand [1] - https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/keep+head+down
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