On Sat, 2020-03-07 at 22:22 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 07 Mar 2020, Michał Górny wrote: > > Surely, you can claim we could just drop them to maintainer-needed. > > What problem does that solve? The package would still miss 3.7 support. > > Users will still suffer when we switch the default (if they have any > > users, that is). We would still have to last rite them when 3.6 is > > gone. What's the gain? > > Right, let's talk about m-needed. Over 2000 packages already and still > > growing. What message does *that* send to the users? > > Sorry, but where have I suggested to drop these packages to m-n? > > > How about the following message: the difference between Gentoo > > and Debian stable is that Gentoo doesn't have the 'b'. > > Finally, what message does it send to our users when developers keep > > picking up fights like this? You seem to disagree with my work > > on Gentoo, and the only solution you can come up is publicly shaming me? > > This isn't 'let's discuss a better solution' kind of mail, this is > > 'justify yourself before me, you puny developer, how dare you do things > > I don't like'. > > This is neither a fight nor a personal issue. Also, please don't put > words in my mouth that I haven't said and never intended to say. > > Ulrich
In general, I don't the see the point of this thread. Python requires explicit implementation enabling, and unless you're willing to help test py3.7 on py3.6- only packages, complaining about masking packages gets us absolutely nowhere. Propose actual solutions and step in to help and bump packages. Walk the walk, don't just talk the talk.
