On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 10:34 PM orbea <or...@riseup.net> wrote: > > Regardless the disappointment is a valid concern when Gentoo is willing > to pull the rug up from under users feet under erroneous claims of the > project being dead. >
As a complete outsider, I think this conversation is focusing on the wrong issue. IMO the main reason it is getting treecleaned is the lack of a maintainer. Everything about this entire back-and-forth screams lack-of-maintainer. You're essentially arguing that the Gentoo devs are out of touch with the real status of upstream. To a point I'd agree - that's because normally it is a maintainer who stays on top of that stuff. This is a fairly critical system package for anybody who has it installed. You don't want something like that not getting attention when it has a problem, whether upstream or packaging-related. Blueness kinda summed it up in his original news item. This isn't something that can be handled by a drive-by commit or two, or a loosely involved proxy-maintainer. Somebody needs to really step up and take ownership of eudev for it to be viable. Even if upstream were great I wouldn't want to be using a stale package that is barely maintained. What is really needed is somebody stepping up and saying I will maintain this. If they were a Gentoo dev then the mask would probably be gone already (IMO never would have happened if they stepped up before now). If it were a proxy I don't want to speculate too much but they'd probably need to have a good history with such things. Without anybody saying "I will personally fix this stuff" I just don't see the treecleaning process stopping. Arguing about the state of upstream isn't going to change much, and if there were a maintainer they'd just be dealing with it. Sorry for this being a bit of a ramble. I do feel for your situation, but I don't want to see you fighting the wrong battle. Disclaimer: this is just my outside observation having seen many a treecleaning frustration in the past. I don't speak for any authority in Gentoo here. -- Rich
